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twentybux
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Posted - 04/10/2010 : 20:46:09
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I will be receiving a $500 box of halves this week. I have almost enough to re-roll to turn back in knowing nearly nothing will be silver. My question is where is a cheap place to get these wrappers (flat)? I know an obvious answer is the bank, however I believe I may wear my welcome asking for $500 worth of half wrappers everytime I walk in the door. Any good sites on the web that don't charge an arm and a leg for shipping on these things? I saw that Sam's Club has pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters but could not find halves. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
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totalcount
Penny Sorter Member


USA
77 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2010 : 21:00:22
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If you are planning on doing this a lot, I'd buy a large number of wrappers to amortize the shipping costs.
You could also try weighing the rolls and not opening the pure clad ones. It would be a bit tough since 40% silvers (11.5g) weigh only a tiny bit more than the clad (11.34g). The 90% are significantly heavier (12.5g), Even so, if you find most of your rolls weigh exactly the same amount then you can be sure they are clad.
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motos
Penny Sorter Member


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Posted - 04/10/2010 : 21:46:41
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| I am not sure what bank you belong to but at BoA whenever I asked for halve wrappers she would get me about 100 wrappers and rubber band them for me whenever I asked. I am sure you could go to several banks and start hoarding wrappers lol. |
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Computer Jones
1000+ Penny Miser Member
    

USA
1112 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2010 : 22:59:00
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It's not too hard to unroll one end, push the coins out check them, slip them back in the tube and fold down the uncurled edge. I've been checking boxes this way for years. I find it's faster and easier than ripping rolls open, opening up flat wrappers to slide 20 coins in and folding both ends. |
There's profit if you melt things!! 8{> |
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EZ_Money
Penny Pincher Member
 

USA
125 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2010 : 23:12:58
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| It's much easier if you can find a good dump bank that will take them loose. BoA will provide you with a coin bag to turn loose coin in. It takes a couple days, but sure beats re-rolling them all. Some credit unions and other banks have counting machines in the lobby or on-site, you just have to ask around. It might be nice to keep some wrappers on hand if you need to roll some to take in for some emergency cash. |
Running total: Halves searched:$14,445.50 90% found: 122 40% found: 481
Dimes Searched $2100 Found: 5 |
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rainsonme
Penny Pincher Member
 

USA
183 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2010 : 01:04:44
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| Being horrifically cheap, I save all the wrappers from customer wrapped roles I get from banks. That may not help much for the halfs, but I have quite a supply of used wrappers of all denominations. |
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garnede
Penny Collector Member
  

USA
386 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2010 : 05:18:23
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| I tried just using the ones from the bank and felt I was wearing out my welcome. I went to one of the bank supply sites and bought 5 boxes of wrappers and with shipping to alaska it worked out to $6-7 dollars for a box of 1000 wrappers. I felt if I could find 1 90% in $10,000 then it would pay for the wrappers. You have to buy several boxes though or you won't meet the minimum order size.. |
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Bluegill
1000+ Penny Miser Member
    

USA
1964 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2010 : 15:53:46
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Unless you're in a 1 or 2 bank town, just go to a different branch and get wrappers for free. Never buy wrappers. As already pointed out, you can also reuse the paper wrappers both Brinks and CWI use on halves.
I go through 8+ boxes of dimes a week. I have to roll to avoid getting shorted by the coin counters. I have never had to buy a wrapper...
Better yet, shop around with the local credit unions, usually they are more likely to have coin counters either in the lobby or behind the counter (good for all denominations but dimes). No rolling. 
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twentybux
Penny Pincher Member
 

174 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2010 : 22:26:28
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| Good advice from all. Thank you! :) |
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totalcount
Penny Sorter Member


USA
77 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2010 : 21:49:08
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quote: Originally posted by totalcount
You could also try weighing the rolls and not opening the pure clad ones. It would be a bit tough since 40% silvers (11.5g) weigh only a tiny bit more than the clad (11.34g). The 90% are significantly heavier (12.5g), Even so, if you find most of your rolls weigh exactly the same amount then you can be sure they are clad.
I couldn't resist trying this out. I weighed each roll in a box to find out the weight. Most were 225.X grams however, 7 were over 226 grams (226.1, 226.2, 226.3x2, 226.4x2, 226.5) I opened the heaviest one and there was a 40% 1967 in it. both 226.3 rolls also had one (one was a very worn 90%er) the other 4 rolls didn't have anything. I'm betting I won't find any more silver in the box. I think you could skip everything less than 225.8g (over half my box) and not miss any silver. That makes checking faster and obviously, no re-rolling.
Also, opening one end of the roll and sliding the coins out is a lot easier for halves than for pennies, no need to buy wrappers. |
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garnede
Penny Collector Member
  

USA
386 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2010 : 22:04:59
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Yes, but you could miss proofs, NIFC, clad commemoratives, and errors checking that way.
quote: Originally posted by totalcount
quote: Originally posted by totalcount
You could also try weighing the rolls and not opening the pure clad ones. It would be a bit tough since 40% silvers (11.5g) weigh only a tiny bit more than the clad (11.34g). The 90% are significantly heavier (12.5g), Even so, if you find most of your rolls weigh exactly the same amount then you can be sure they are clad.
I couldn't resist trying this out. I weighed each roll in a box to find out the weight. Most were 225.X grams however, 7 were over 226 grams (226.1, 226.2, 226.3x2, 226.4x2, 226.5) I opened the heaviest one and there was a 40% 1967 in it. both 226.3 rolls also had one (one was a very worn 90%er) the other 4 rolls didn't have anything. I'm betting I won't find any more silver in the box. I think you could skip everything less than 225.8g (over half my box) and not miss any silver. That makes checking faster and obviously, no re-rolling.
Also, opening one end of the roll and sliding the coins out is a lot easier for halves than for pennies, no need to buy wrappers.
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totalcount
Penny Sorter Member


USA
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Posted - 04/14/2010 : 22:34:57
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Yes, this is just for finding silver, not for finding other interesting coins. But, you could get through a box twice as fast, and dumping may be easier since half the rolls would be unopened, so if you can order twice as many boxes it would work out the same.
quote: Originally posted by garnede
Yes, but you could miss proofs, NIFC, clad commemoratives, and errors checking that way.
quote: Originally posted by totalcount
quote: Originally posted by totalcount
You could also try weighing the rolls and not opening the pure clad ones. It would be a bit tough since 40% silvers (11.5g) weigh only a tiny bit more than the clad (11.34g). The 90% are significantly heavier (12.5g), Even so, if you find most of your rolls weigh exactly the same amount then you can be sure they are clad.
I couldn't resist trying this out. I weighed each roll in a box to find out the weight. Most were 225.X grams however, 7 were over 226 grams (226.1, 226.2, 226.3x2, 226.4x2, 226.5) I opened the heaviest one and there was a 40% 1967 in it. both 226.3 rolls also had one (one was a very worn 90%er) the other 4 rolls didn't have anything. I'm betting I won't find any more silver in the box. I think you could skip everything less than 225.8g (over half my box) and not miss any silver. That makes checking faster and obviously, no re-rolling.
Also, opening one end of the roll and sliding the coins out is a lot easier for halves than for pennies, no need to buy wrappers.
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wayne1956
Penny Pincher Member
 

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Posted - 04/15/2010 : 09:28:35
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| The only problem I can see with weighing the rolls is if there happens to be a worn walker or barber in the roll, then there would be a high probability it would be missed, since it would then weigh less than a clad instead of more. |
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totalcount
Penny Sorter Member


USA
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Posted - 04/20/2010 : 20:27:23
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quote: Originally posted by totalcount
quote: Originally posted by totalcount
You could also try weighing the rolls and not opening the pure clad ones. It would be a bit tough since 40% silvers (11.5g) weigh only a tiny bit more than the clad (11.34g). The 90% are significantly heavier (12.5g), Even so, if you find most of your rolls weigh exactly the same amount then you can be sure they are clad.
I couldn't resist trying this out. I weighed each roll in a box to find out the weight. Most were 225.X grams however, 7 were over 226 grams (226.1, 226.2, 226.3x2, 226.4x2, 226.5) I opened the heaviest one and there was a 40% 1967 in it. both 226.3 rolls also had one (one was a very worn 90%er) the other 4 rolls didn't have anything. I'm betting I won't find any more silver in the box. I think you could skip everything less than 225.8g (over half my box) and not miss any silver. That makes checking faster and obviously, no re-rolling.
Also, opening one end of the roll and sliding the coins out is a lot easier for halves than for pennies, no need to buy wrappers.
I have now finished going through the box. here is what I found total: 4 40%ers and 1 90%. Of those, the 90% and 40% were in the 10 heaviest rolls. The other 40% was in one of the 4 lightest rolls. there were lots of coins with worn rims.
My conclusion is that the vast majority of the silver is going to be in the 20% of the rolls that are heaviest. If you have a good source and can dump rolled halves you could search 4 boxes this way in the time it takes to sort 1 box the normal way, you would get 80+ of the silver, clearly you'd be way ahead.
However, if you are limited by the amount you can pick up, it is better to go through each roll. |
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jtlee321
Penny Pincher Member
 
USA
136 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2010 : 22:19:58
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| I tried to weigh at first.. But I found that there was too much of a weight fluctuation in halves for it to be reliable.. I mean grab 10 40% and weigh each one individually. They will all weigh different. Some will even weigh less than some of the clad you find. You could even have a roll of thin halves with a 90% er in it and the difference the 90% made brings up the average for the roll, making the roll weigh the same as all the rest. I figure if I am going through the trouble to order halves, drive to the bank to pick it up, go home and search and then drag them back to the bank, I will at least look at the edge of every coin. I can then guarantee that I did not throw any silver away.. Just my two cents worth.. |
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