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Coinage
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Posted - 04/07/2010 : 14:31:08
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Positive Feedback Selling Score Copper Sold (0 lots) / Nickel Sold (0 lots) / Silver Sold (0 lots) / WTB-WTS-WTT (1 lots) Rate me on a scale of 1 to 5 jldco - 5.5______ |
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beauanderos
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USA
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Coinage
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Canada
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Neckro
1000+ Penny Miser Member
    

Saudi Arabia
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Posted - 04/07/2010 : 14:38:13
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| What is gold? |
Trolling is an art. |
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Coinage
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Canada
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AGgressive Metal
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USA
1937 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2010 : 15:15:57
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| I lost all my gold. Or it was stolen. Or something. |
And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world. -Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484 |
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Country
1000+ Penny Miser Member
    

USA
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Posted - 04/07/2010 : 17:46:49
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I hate GOLD, especially the flavor of GOLD that has GOLD on the outside and Tungsten on the inside - the oreo kind of GOLD.  |
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marine70
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USA
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Posted - 04/07/2010 : 22:09:25
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| I dont have any gold so Mr Obama dont ask for it. |
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cesario
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Posted - 04/08/2010 : 00:52:50
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| *kicks the empty cans of silver spray paint to the side* |
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Nickelless
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Beau
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Posted - 04/08/2010 : 14:35:52
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Do you really expect this to happen? will it cover silver too? When do you expect it?
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Nickelless
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El Dee
Penny Hoarding Member
   

USA
547 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2010 : 16:03:52
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Because that way, they potentially make money THREE TIMES on the same thing. *grins*
1) Sell it.
2) Steal it back.
3) Sell it to China.
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Neckro
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Saudi Arabia
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Posted - 04/08/2010 : 16:06:29
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| Na, they'd have to reimburse you for taking your property. Supposedly. |
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bankmining
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USA
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Posted - 04/08/2010 : 17:54:18
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| Yes, at what THEY consider to be fair market value |
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Ardent Listener
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USA
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Posted - 04/08/2010 : 18:01:01
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| More likely, IMO, the would try to starve PMs out of our hands though unemployment or just tax it to death. One thing about Americans, tell them they can't have something and you can be sure that then they will want it. |
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Nickelless
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Lemon Thrower
1000+ Penny Miser Member
    

USA
1588 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2010 : 06:16:02
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| the guy in the OP's video is techncially correct but disengenous. the govt in 1933 REQUIRED under penalty of imprisonment all americans to sell their gold, it was not voluntary. Also, while the govt did pay you the then fair market value for the gold, it then immecdiately turned around and devalued the dollars it paid you relative to gold. A more fair way to describe that is they paid you about 50 cents on the dollar for your gold and confiscated the other half of your gold. |
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Nickelless
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USA
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Posted - 04/12/2010 : 19:04:14
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quote: Originally posted by Lemon Thrower
the guy in the OP's video is techncially correct but disengenous. the govt in 1933 REQUIRED under penalty of imprisonment all americans to sell their gold, it was not voluntary. Also, while the govt did pay you the then fair market value for the gold, it then immecdiately turned around and devalued the dollars it paid you relative to gold. A more fair way to describe that is they paid you about 50 cents on the dollar for your gold and confiscated the other half of your gold.
Any info on how many people actually turned in their gold versus how many people (from what we know now) didn't? |
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truck3
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Posted - 04/13/2010 : 19:29:11
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| Another reason to lean heavier on silver. They've never confiscated silver before, plus it's so heavy and used more in industry so would be quite difficult. |
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Nickelless
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rainsonme
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USA
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Posted - 04/14/2010 : 00:22:19
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| I don't think the government would confiscate gold or silver. They wouldn't know what to do with it. It's not money to them. The fiat system is fully in place. Gold and silver are great stores of value against all of these fiat currencies, but they are not money. In 1933, the US was on the gold standard and money was made out of silver, backed by gold. The debts of this nation, and most other developed nations, have outstripped the supply of physical gold many times over. I have no idea how all this plays out, but I don't think the US government will be minting silver or gold coins for general commerce. The members of this board may be buying a gallon of gasoline with a 1963 quarter or a 1957 dime in a few years, but I don't think the US government will return to a direct gold standard. |
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wolvesdad
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Posted - 04/14/2010 : 04:01:50
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| Still, the way this guy says what he does is quite interesting. Can you tell me who he is( I know, I know, I should know that already, but I admit, I haven't been studying my 'government czars speak out' textbook lately). |
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AGCoinHunter
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USA
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Posted - 04/15/2010 : 09:47:30
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| In my opinion they won't seize gold and silver, they are going after your pensions and retirement accounts. There is untold billions just sitting in tax free accounts that they have their greedy eyes on. Just heard Argentina has done this in the name of combating corruption and to fund populist programs. Then there is the VAT tax which will milk the remainder of wealth out of the middle class. They dont need to seize anything from you, they just plan to drain any other means you have to force you to give up your PM's. The day is coming... |
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AGgressive Metal
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USA
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Posted - 04/15/2010 : 12:11:09
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| The sheer number of pre-33 gold coins floating around out there demonstrates how well their confiscation worked last time. |
And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world. -Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484 |
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El Dee
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USA
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Posted - 04/15/2010 : 14:12:33
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Actually, it worked pretty well. If you had money in the form of gold coin or Gold Certificates, it became worthless because it could no longer be spent. To spend your gold wealth, you had to turn it in for FRNs, which were legal tender and COULD be spent.
The depository at Fort Knox was built to house the bars made from melted coins. The sheer number of pre-33 surviving is but a fraction of what once was out there. Many, probably most, of the gold coins didn't circulate, but were in bank vaults and served as backing for Gold Certificates.
Much of the pre-33 US gold coin we see has been re-imported from Europe. |
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