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PennySaved
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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 Posted - 04/06/2010 : 17:00:02
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For those of you who sort pennies/nickels and also scrap/strip wires etc and work a full time job, how do you find time to do it all :-)
I have a ton of electrical wires that I picked up cheap at a church yardsale. It was the end of the day and stuff a box for $1 and I went around picking up all the electrical cords.
I just can't find the time to strip everything and take the time to sort pennies.
Am I better off just turning them in insulated and getting the mullah now?
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thogey
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1617 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 17:27:45
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You don't have a problem because in Arizona it's illegal for the yards to buy stripped wire.
This according to my yard. |
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PennySaved
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1720 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 17:39:28
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| I thought that was just for a certain thickness of wire??? |
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thogey
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1617 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 17:41:55
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| For really fat wire, I think 3/8 of more, including jumper cables, you need an ROC number to sell it. My yard won't even buy electric motor windings. |
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hobo finds
Penny Hoarding Member
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 18:07:05
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Insulated wire $1.05 per pound. Yards will not take striped wire unless its a business account
here is the AZ law You must be logged in to see this link. |
Edited by - hobo finds on 04/06/2010 18:14:08 |
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Flbandit
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
851 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 19:10:39
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| No problem in FL, they'll take it stripped on not. I usually save up the smaller wire and turn it in insulated. The thicker stuff I strip. |
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cptindy
Penny Hoarding Member
572 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 22:05:11
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I heard some crazy country folk build themselves nice hot fires and burn it.
I would never do that! |
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thogey
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 22:09:13
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quote:
Originally posted by cptindy
I heard some crazy country folk build themselves nice hot fires and burn it.
I would never do that!
But, in AZ you could scrap a cut up a/c without a proof of freon evacuation. |
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cptindy
Penny Hoarding Member
572 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 22:14:39
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| Not that we need that here in FLA. But one can purchase the stickers in quantity, The number is then written in black marker by the "contractor", if one needed to have the sticker to turn it in. |
"It is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting"
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thogey
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1617 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 22:18:12
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You seem to know a lot of tricks cptindy.
I'm sure you just 'read' about this stuff somewhere. |
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cptindy
Penny Hoarding Member
572 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 22:26:34
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I don't appreciate the over regulations and double standards set by those that feel entitled. So, I "read" about possibilities that may circumvent bureaucracy.
My old yard in The "D" would take all the insulated wire turned in to the back and guess what? They burned it. The would set dumpsters in contractor yards and let them fill them up. When the truck came in it went to the back where guess what? They removed the freon with a front end loader.
I was on a ship for two years and when we did not hit port for weeks at a time guess where the trash went? Midnight trash dump into the Atlantic. |
"It is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting"
" The average man doesn't want to be free. He wants to be safe."
H.L. Mencken
http://silver-news-today.com/ |
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thogey
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1617 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 22:28:46
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Originally posted by cptindy
I don't appreciate the over regulations and double standards set by those that feel entitled. So, I "read" about possibilities that may circumvent bureaucracy.
My old yard in The "D" would take all the insulated wire turned in to the back and guess what? They burned it. The would set dumpsters in contractor yards and let them fill them up. When the truck came in it went to the back where guess what? They removed the freon with a front end loader.
I was on a ship for two years and when we did not hit port for weeks at a time guess where the trash went? Midnight trash dump into the Atlantic.
That's what I call efficient! |
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cptindy
Penny Hoarding Member
572 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 22:35:28
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Here is a tip for next winter.
Load your trailer with water tanks, fill them with water, let them freeze.
I "read" that some where!
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"It is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting"
" The average man doesn't want to be free. He wants to be safe."
H.L. Mencken
http://silver-news-today.com/ |
Edited by - cptindy on 04/06/2010 22:37:54 |
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JWRAY
Penny Collector Member
USA
378 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 22:38:56
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While over-regulation can be bad, I have to say I agree with many of the laws. There is no purpose in recycling materials if it does more damage than good. While burning off some parts of electronics may be efficient, look at some of the huge problems in developing nations with the e-waste crap.
I am definetly for scrapping, recycling, and making a few dollars while doing it. But certain things just need regulated IMHO.
Oh, and back on point......where to find the time. My day consists of getting up a bit early, scanning ebay and realcent, a few other forums and craigslist in the morning, off to work, check a few more at lunch, grab pennies at bank, after work sort pennies while continuing to scan for deals. Trash days cruise the roads and grab scrappables. Drop off scrap metals as they build up.
Oh, yeah I know how I have time.......I have absolutely no life. |
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cptindy
Penny Hoarding Member
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 22:44:48
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Recycling is only called green by those that would like you to think it is for the environment. It is really called green because it saves money, which is making money.
I heard about a guy who would buy scrap after hours at half market rates. That seems to be a time saver.
Sounds like a good life to me! Stay busy making money, that's awesome. |
"It is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting"
" The average man doesn't want to be free. He wants to be safe."
H.L. Mencken
http://silver-news-today.com/ |
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thogey
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1617 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 22:47:34
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quote:
Originally posted by cptindy
Recycling is only called green by those that would like you to think it is for the environment. It is really called green because it saves money, which is making money.
I heard about a guy who would buy scrap after hours at half market rates. That seems to be a time saver.
Sounds like a good life to me! Stay busy making money, that's awesome.
Most or our scrap goes to China and India. There's nothing green about how they refine it. |
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cptindy
Penny Hoarding Member
572 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 23:01:22
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What do Ya'll think Cash for Clunkers was all about?
China needs metal!
Where do all the recycled ships go for recycling?
Not here!
Go Green!
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"It is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting"
" The average man doesn't want to be free. He wants to be safe."
H.L. Mencken
http://silver-news-today.com/ |
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JWRAY
Penny Collector Member
USA
378 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2010 : 00:17:58
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I was referring to the specific examples of burning and freon, not to recycling in any generic save the world ideal. And very rarely is recycling cheaper than raw consumption, usually it is much more expensive and saves no money.
If you think recycling isnt green, then go check out a landfill. Mountains of steel, metal parts and pieces, recyclable plastics. All buried in spot A while we harvest new materials out of spot B to make that same stuff we just buried! I understand that programs like cash for clunkers are gimics, and the process is screwed and many of the recycling programs do more harm than good. But from the simple idea of recycling vs. reharvesting, it is better for the environment. Now whether we can actually set up programs that do this the right way, and that work long term???? That is a different story.
Also, while many things do get sold oversees, there are still actual recyclers here as well. There is a metal refiner not far from me that buys the metals and refines them on site, making metal bars for construction and industry on their own.
Also, at least as I see it, the reason lots of that scrap gets sold overseas is because the regulations over there are non-existent. So all of those techniques that are illegal here are fair game, making it profitable.
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messymessy
Penny Sorter Member
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Posted - 04/07/2010 : 22:31:04
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Last time I was at the landfill, they were separating all the iron with a huge magnet and hand sorting for aluminum and copper. Generally speaking, recycling is cheaper than raw consumption if we get paid for whatever we're recycling. Plastics are definitely cheaper to use raw consumption than to recycle.
In reply to the original topic: I generally only scrap on the weekends, and even then not often enough. |
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