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PennySaved
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 Posted - 02/10/2010 : 20:29:00
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I found a 1916 Edward VII coin in the junk bin. It looks like a British 1/2 sovereign with the horse on the back. However, it is copper in appearance.
I've been looking through my world coin book and cant find it. Any help?
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SELLING COPPER PENNIES 1.4X FACE SHIPPED......“I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principles of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale” Thomas Jefferson |
Edited by - PennySaved on 02/10/2010 20:58:40 |
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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/10/2010 : 20:58:45
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| Weird. Edward VII died in 1910, so coins from 1916 would have George V. Is it the size of a half sovereign? |
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PennySaved
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Posted - 02/10/2010 : 21:09:28
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| Yeah it is because I have a couple of verified sovereigns. It seems too detailed to be a fake coin but I am not really sure. It is in a bezel for a necklace |
SELLING COPPER PENNIES 1.4X FACE SHIPPED......“I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principles of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale” Thomas Jefferson |
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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/10/2010 : 21:18:48
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| I have a model half farthing that is from a year not in the books. It's from a coronation year though; a lot of collector stuff was made in coronation years. This is puzzling to me. Can you post a pic? |
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PennySaved
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Posted - 02/10/2010 : 21:22:13
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| I put one pic of the reverse in my 1st posting; my camera isnt the greatest |
SELLING COPPER PENNIES 1.4X FACE SHIPPED......“I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principles of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale” Thomas Jefferson |
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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/10/2010 : 21:28:47
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| And what is the exact lettering on the obverse? |
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PennySaved
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Posted - 02/10/2010 : 21:33:11
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| EDVARDVS VII D:G: BRITT:OMN:RFX F:D:IND:IMP |
SELLING COPPER PENNIES 1.4X FACE SHIPPED......“I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principles of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale” Thomas Jefferson |
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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/10/2010 : 22:01:58
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| Is the bezel removable? Could you weigh it? |
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PennySaved
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Posted - 02/10/2010 : 22:13:10
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| No it is pretty much a permanent part of the coin now. What did those letters tell you? |
SELLING COPPER PENNIES 1.4X FACE SHIPPED......“I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principles of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale” Thomas Jefferson |
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uthminsta
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 02/10/2010 : 22:37:35
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Well, it tells me that it's what it should be for a real coin. Except for RFX which should be REX. I was assuming that was a typo. I have some examples of British "play" money that uses a mixture of some of the genuine lettering plus some to identify the maker, or just gibberish. Like this guinea replica game token:
W.C.B. ET. CO. = the name of the company that made this. One such company was Bancroft Brothers. I don't remember what this one stands for.
DG. I. REX. F.D. = a close imitation of the actual Latin abbreviation lettering.
B.I.R.M. = made in Birmingham. |
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PennySaved
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Posted - 02/10/2010 : 22:40:17
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| Yeah REX sorry; so what would you guess it would be? |
SELLING COPPER PENNIES 1.4X FACE SHIPPED......“I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principles of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale” Thomas Jefferson |
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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/10/2010 : 23:05:13
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| So far I don't know. So I would go with the most obvious so far: I would guess it's a copper replica of a half sovereign. Purposely "muled" so that the sides didn't match up, so that it couldn't be plated in something gold and passed of as authentic. |
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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/10/2010 : 23:06:54
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| One more question. Is there a mint mark on the ground line above the center of the date? |
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PennySaved
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Posted - 02/10/2010 : 23:15:07
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| That makes sense. And I would never be so lucky as to find gold in the junk foreign bin :) |
SELLING COPPER PENNIES 1.4X FACE SHIPPED......“I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principles of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale” Thomas Jefferson |
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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/10/2010 : 23:18:10
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| How sure are you on the date? I know that sounds obvious, but... well... |
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PennySaved
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Posted - 02/11/2010 : 08:47:18
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| It looks like 1916; I know a guy who has an ebay store that sometimes sells coins. Maybe I'll take it to him to see if he has an opinion on it. That is what I love about the junk bin that you always find cool things. Even if they aren't worth much researching them can be a good learning experience. |
SELLING COPPER PENNIES 1.4X FACE SHIPPED......“I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principles of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale” Thomas Jefferson |
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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/11/2010 : 09:47:04
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| This is a VERY cool coin. If I found this in a junk bin, I would be VERY happy. |
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PennySaved
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Posted - 02/12/2010 : 04:10:50
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| I got a 2nd opinion and you were correct. He said it was a restrike and was copper. |
SELLING COPPER PENNIES 1.4X FACE SHIPPED......“I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principles of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale” Thomas Jefferson |
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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/12/2010 : 09:29:53
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| Where does it go now? |
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Junk Woody
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Canada
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Posted - 02/12/2010 : 12:41:16
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| Someone wants it. |
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uthminsta
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PennySaved
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Posted - 02/12/2010 : 15:29:54
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| I still have it; would you really want a replica coin? He said you can tell its not the authentic coin because the reeding on the edges is not as good as the real thing. |
SELLING COPPER PENNIES 1.4X FACE SHIPPED......“I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principles of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale” Thomas Jefferson |
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