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snappy
Penny Collector Member


USA
301 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2010 :  15:06:05  Show Profile Send snappy a Private Message
Poll Question:
ok I think I am going to drop the hammer on some more silver but not sure if I should stick with 90%ers or 100 oz bars..


http://www.apmex.com/Product/50645/IRA_Acceptable___100_oz_999_Fine_Silver_Bars_APMEX.aspx

http://www.apmex.com/Product/25/500_Face_Value_Bag_of_90_Silver_Coins.aspx


the bars are .69/oz over spot the coins come out to ~.50/oz over spot

lets have some input.

Choices:

The 90% us coins
The 100 oz bars


Selling Ryedale sorted USA cents
1.5 each + shipping over 500fv 1.5 each +1/2 shipping
If you pick up 1.35 each
located MT/ND boarder.
after Ryedale sorting they are hand sorted to remove canadian then rechecked with Ryedale to insure all copper and count out $50 FV then placed in cloth bags and sealed with #1 copper wire.

highroller4321
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USA
2648 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2010 :  15:42:18  Show Profile Send highroller4321 a Private Message
100oz bars in my mind are unsafe because you never know if they are drilled and filled.


If you wait you can join our group buy...think we are looking at 10oz bars but won't know till we hit our price point. Look in the members only section for the thread.

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Lemon Thrower
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USA
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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  17:12:09  Show Profile Send Lemon Thrower a Private Message
i like 90%. its small and liquid and recognizable.

some don't like it because it was hard to sell during the 1980 spike. i think since then its recognized as liquid rather than junk. to me, generic bars are junk compared to US minted coins.

hard to sell 100 oz bars except to very large outfits.

Buying:
Peace/Morgan G+ at $15.00
copper cents at 1.3X
wheat pennies at 3X


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dakota1955
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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  17:16:34  Show Profile  Send dakota1955 a Yahoo! Message Send dakota1955 a Private Message
I like 90% the best and what below spot would that if you had to sell 100 oz bar
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redneck
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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  17:44:03  Show Profile Send redneck a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Lemon Thrower

i like 90%. its small and liquid and recognizable.

some don't like it because it was hard to sell during the 1980 spike. i think since then its recognized as liquid rather than junk. to me, generic bars are junk compared to US minted coins.

hard to sell 100 oz bars except to very large outfits.




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slickeast
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USA
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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  17:51:46  Show Profile Send slickeast a Private Message
I agree that 100 oz bars are hard to sell. 90 percent is easy to sell. You can sell it one silver dime at a time. Not everyone can or wants to spend 1500+ on one bar.

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Market Harmony
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USA
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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  18:00:27  Show Profile Send Market Harmony a Private Message
The 100 oz bar is already at industry standards for purity. 90% would either have to be sold to another person or sent to a refinery which will have to charge you a fee to refine. Their buyers only want pure metal.

Few individuals would want to buy a $500 bag of quarters, unless they were going to break it apart to sell at a profit. You're better off with the 100 oz bar, in my opinion. There are some ways to tell if a 100 bar has been drilled and filled. It doesn't happen often, but I've seen other people's evidence that it has... even with the Englehard bars.

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bman
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USA
425 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2010 :  18:17:54  Show Profile Send bman a Private Message
I voted for the coins, if silver ever takes a dive in price the coins will still have some numismatic value. If it ever got really bad you could even spend the coins.

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marine70
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USA
150 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2010 :  18:31:36  Show Profile Send marine70 a Private Message
90% is the way to go if SHTF you could actually spend them at there silver level.
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redneck
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1273 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2010 :  18:38:02  Show Profile Send redneck a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Market Harmony

The 100 oz bar is already at industry standards for purity. 90% would either have to be sold to another person or sent to a refinery which will have to charge you a fee to refine. Their buyers only want pure metal.

Few individuals would want to buy a $500 bag of quarters, unless they were going to break it apart to sell at a profit. You're better off with the 100 oz bar, in my opinion. There are some ways to tell if a 100 bar has been drilled and filled. It doesn't happen often, but I've seen other people's evidence that it has... even with the Englehard bars.



Whenever I see bags of 90% offered for sale they usually don't last very long.

I feel a lot of buyers are fine with 90%. You really don't lose anything because normally you pay 10% back of full spot to begin with.

quote:
Few individuals would want to buy a $500 bag of quarters, unless they were going to break it apart to sell at a profit.


Isn't that the point ???

I mean other than preserving wealth that is.

I guess what it really all boils down to is what your long and short term goals are.

In other words.

To each their own...



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beauanderos
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USA
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Posted - 02/08/2010 :  18:55:14  Show Profile Send beauanderos a Private Message
If you buy the 100 oz bar your options are limited. You may get a better price (lower premium) on it than 90%, but the only thing you can do is sell it for profit. You'll never be able to spend it, which you can do with 90% if you ever need to barter. Michael has a point, though, that the standard recognized purity would avert having to smelt it for the silver content. There's a place in every portfolio for both, particularly if you have a larger amount to invest, but I would start off with 90% myself. JMHO

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highroller4321
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USA
2648 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2010 :  20:24:33  Show Profile Send highroller4321 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Market Harmony

The 100 oz bar is already at industry standards for purity. 90% would either have to be sold to another person or sent to a refinery which will have to charge you a fee to refine. Their buyers only want pure metal.

Few individuals would want to buy a $500 bag of quarters, unless they were going to break it apart to sell at a profit. You're better off with the 100 oz bar, in my opinion. There are some ways to tell if a 100 bar has been drilled and filled. It doesn't happen often, but I've seen other people's evidence that it has... even with the Englehard bars.



Englehard 100oz bars are the most commonly faked or drilled bars. I personally have aseen a fake 100oz bar and have seen many pictures of 100oz bars.

If you want to know about 100oz bars just talk to a dealer who was in business during the 1980's rush. 100oz bars were very hard to move because the dealers didn't want to get stuck with a fake.

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Mcprice302
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USA
404 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2010 :  21:51:32  Show Profile Send Mcprice302 a Private Message
I'm not one who ever anticipates bartering for survival. That being said, I still like the 90% over a 100oz. bar. You can break that up any way you want it and sell at different price points instead of just all at once. Like what others have said already, its kinda hard to sell a 100oz. bar unless your going with a dealer of some kind. If you wanted a private, cash, tax-free deal, forget about the large bars. 90% wins hands down in this choice.
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oober
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USA
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Posted - 02/09/2010 :  11:47:34  Show Profile Send oober a Private Message
If these are the only 2 options I would go with the 90%... Where's the 10oz option... This is what you sould be buying even if you are paying a little premium... Silver is discounted right now... Buy, Buy!!!
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garnede
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USA
386 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2010 :  12:05:18  Show Profile Send garnede a Private Message
go with the lower price over spot.
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