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redneck
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Posted - 02/02/2010 :  11:45:36  Show Profile Send redneck a Private Message

A very interesting article...


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dakota1955
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Posted - 02/02/2010 :  12:23:52  Show Profile  Send dakota1955 a Yahoo! Message Send dakota1955 a Private Message
this make a person think what if?
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Lemon Thrower
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USA
1588 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2010 :  13:17:47  Show Profile Send Lemon Thrower a Private Message
wow, very intersting article.

i have printed out chapter 7 and 8 of the 9/11 commission report. i have just skimmed the full page but it gives credence to a lot of the claims in this article!

the 9/11 commission report makes the point that theft of vast amounts of gold from national treasuries is an historic fact, but no one asks about how it got laundered.

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copper cents at 1.3X
wheat pennies at 3X



Edited by - Lemon Thrower on 02/03/2010 05:38:05
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Zyll
Penny Pincher Member

USA
214 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2010 :  15:11:41  Show Profile Send Zyll a Private Message
I was very troubled from reading these things. But in the midst of this complexity comes the simple...we are but small players and we enjoy our work, saving for the future. I am reminded of Ecclesiastes Chapter 5:
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10 Whoever loves money never has money enough;
whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with his income.
This too is meaningless.

11 As goods increase,
so do those who consume them.
And what benefit are they to the owner
except to feast his eyes on them?

12 The sleep of a laborer is sweet,
whether he eats little or much,
but the abundance of a rich man
permits him no sleep.

13 I have seen a grievous evil under the sun:
wealth hoarded to the harm of its owner,

14 or wealth lost through some misfortune,
so that when he has a son
there is nothing left for him.

15 Naked a man comes from his mother's womb,
and as he comes, so he departs.
He takes nothing from his labor
that he can carry in his hand.

16 This too is a grievous evil:
As a man comes, so he departs,
and what does he gain,
since he toils for the wind?

17 All his days he eats in darkness, with great frustration, affliction and anger.
18 Then I realized that it is good and proper for a man to eat and drink, and to find satisfaction in his toilsome labor under the sun during the few days of life God has given him—for this is his lot.
19 Moreover, when God gives any man wealth and possessions, and enables him to enjoy them, to accept his lot and be happy in his work—this is a gift of God.
20 He seldom reflects on the days of his life, because God keeps him occupied with gladness of heart.
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Lemon Thrower
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1588 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2010 :  15:25:04  Show Profile Send Lemon Thrower a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zyll

I was very troubled from reading these things. But in the midst of this complexity comes the simple...we are but small players and we enjoy our work, saving for the future. I am reminded of Ecclesiastes Chapter 5:
-----
10 Whoever loves money never has money enough;
whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with his income.
This too is meaningless.

11 As goods increase,
so do those who consume them.
And what benefit are they to the owner
except to feast his eyes on them?

12 The sleep of a laborer is sweet,
whether he eats little or much,
but the abundance of a rich man
permits him no sleep.

13 I have seen a grievous evil under the sun:
wealth hoarded to the harm of its owner,

14 or wealth lost through some misfortune,
so that when he has a son
there is nothing left for him.

15 Naked a man comes from his mother's womb,
and as he comes, so he departs.
He takes nothing from his labor
that he can carry in his hand.

16 This too is a grievous evil:
As a man comes, so he departs,
and what does he gain,
since he toils for the wind?

17 All his days he eats in darkness, with great frustration, affliction and anger.
18 Then I realized that it is good and proper for a man to eat and drink, and to find satisfaction in his toilsome labor under the sun during the few days of life God has given him—for this is his lot.
19 Moreover, when God gives any man wealth and possessions, and enables him to enjoy them, to accept his lot and be happy in his work—this is a gift of God.
20 He seldom reflects on the days of his life, because God keeps him occupied with gladness of heart.



true. and more simply:

Gen 3:17 To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, `You must not eat of it,' "Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life.

Gen 3:18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field.

Gen 3:19 By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return."

Gen 3:23 So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken.

Buying:
Peace/Morgan G+ at $15.00
copper cents at 1.3X
wheat pennies at 3X


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redneck
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Posted - 02/02/2010 :  19:29:21  Show Profile Send redneck a Private Message

I think it would be interesting to hear more comments about this article as it raises many questions about our preconceived notion
that Gold is relatively rare therefore valuable.

Please leave only comments relative to the article.

Thanks

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JobIII
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USA
1507 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2010 :  07:26:18  Show Profile Send JobIII a Private Message
Rememeber this motto:

"You can never be too rich or too thin"

Selling Copper cents. $0 FV available at 1.4xFV. Also interested in trading for wheat pennies and other coins Please pm me for requests or inquiries.



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zerocd
Penny Hoarding Member



555 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2010 :  10:27:37  Show Profile Send zerocd a Private Message
A lot to revue there.
No real surprise as most go through life with their eyes closed.
Many don't have the time or inclination to open them.
Very much is not as it seems.
Since many here are aware of fiat currencies and maybe the fractional reserve banking system, I would think our site has more aware than most.

How many are aware that the USA is a Delaware Corporation along with the CIA,IRS, Federal Reserve, Social Security and many others and enjoy the privileges associated with that status?

Ben Fulford is a trip. I like him but must take entries like that with a big grain of salt.

I do think that money and people are a game enjoyed by the secret banking cabal.

Now, time for a little propecting trip to the Grand Canyon....

0CD
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Lemon Thrower
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USA
1588 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2010 :  12:12:37  Show Profile Send Lemon Thrower a Private Message
the one thing the article does not explain is why if there is all this gold do governments need fiat and manipulation of the gold price.

Buying:
Peace/Morgan G+ at $15.00
copper cents at 1.3X
wheat pennies at 3X


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