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beauanderos
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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 Posted - 12/12/2009 : 07:56:25
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Hey all you Ryedale experts. Do you have to sort zincs twice, once with a new copper and again with an old? I noticed when I used the 1981 "factory setting" that a few pre-1940's were dumping into the zincs. Is there that much variance in alloys pre-1940's that you'll miss them if you don't second sort? Seems like a lot of effort just to pick up one or two early wheats, but I did find a 1916, 1928, 1937, and 1940 in about a $100 face that I second-sorted. 
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daviscfad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1664 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2009 : 10:38:22
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| I always use a zinc accept now. I use a 2006 LMC and i dont have any trouble having the older wheats fall into the copper pile |
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dakota1955
1000+ Penny Miser Member
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Posted - 12/12/2009 : 10:48:11
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| I look at the zincs as they are rejected and I look through them afterward and then pull whatever wheats I find. |
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
3890 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2009 : 10:56:47
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I use an Indian. Can't be any 'ole Indian though. A lot of trial and error to find the correct one. I use an '05, but I know of others that use another year with the same results. Set just right, you can get all you "keepers" in the right bin. This includes ALL wheats, Canadian, other foreign, and dimes including the silvers. Most of the time I don't pull anything. The vast majority of my copper is indeed unsearched by me. I return all zincs without a recheck. In fact I'm off to return a little now....
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beauanderos
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
2408 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2009 : 12:41:48
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Originally posted by daviscfad
I always use a zinc accept now. I use a 2006 LMC and i dont have any trouble having the older wheats fall into the copper pile
Hmmm, hadn't thought about doing it this way. Seems backwards, but heck, I'll just switch the big box to the other side. Does it seem to work just as fast? I'll try it tonight. Thanks for the idea!  |
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toomuchcopper
Penny Collector Member
USA
406 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2009 : 17:22:17
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| what about the coppers, who runs their coppers twice? |
visit www.crazycoinguy.com
for information on how to sort, what to sort, and sorting equipment. We also sell copper pennies in bulk, and other coins. |
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beauanderos
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Kurr
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beauanderos
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toomuchcopper
Penny Collector Member
USA
406 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2009 : 19:56:57
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Originally posted by Kurr
I started with the copper accept 2 runs, as per the instructions with the machine. Currently I do a zinc accept once, handsort coppers.
what do you mean "handsort the coppers"....like basically look through them breifly for zincs or what???
I am assuming that you are pulling no canadians or wheats, is that correct? or maybe you pull them if you see them but are not actively looking for them.....?? |
visit www.crazycoinguy.com
for information on how to sort, what to sort, and sorting equipment. We also sell copper pennies in bulk, and other coins. |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 12/12/2009 : 20:35:21
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Real men don't read instructions.
I played with various methods, multiple machines, daisychaining etc. but after seeing an Indian try to sneak through both sides of a sort.. copper keep, then zinc keep I started using the following method.
Copper purity is very important to me, so I start with a standard "copper keep" sort. This will drop the regular coppers and a few dimes on one side, and the zincs, Indians and a few older wheats on the reject side. Rather than resort all those zinc rejects I just grab a handful at a time and drop them in a plastic tub, do a quick hand sift and then dump them directly into one of the rolling machines or counters to prep for return. It is fairly easy to spot an Indian or old wheat cent in a bed of zinc. I then do a second "copper verification" sort on the coppers just in case any zincs took a bad bounce. Sometimes I look through these later and pull out the common wheats and Canadians and sometimes I just send them out "unsearched" to speed things up.  |
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Disc Jockey
New Member
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Posted - 12/17/2009 : 10:15:50
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| Ive had my Ryedale for only a month now. Ive been changing the way I sort. First I sort on zinc, and use the set screw on the discriminator to be very picky and miss some zincs. This removes 60 65 % of all pennies and I take those to the bank. Then I sort on coppers, again very picky with the set screw. Then I sort the remainder with a 73 copper to get the missed coppers. Whatever is rejected goes into a bin for resorting at the end of the month. I dont want to change the target penny too much for fear that the wires will be stressed and eventually break |
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