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uthminsta
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 Posted - 12/06/2009 : 20:48:49
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Hey there, let's compile some info on the major varieties in the Canada small cent series. Here is what we have so far:
1929 low 9, high 9
1947 plain blunt 7, maple leaf blunt 7, maple leaf pointed 7
1948-49 A to denticles, A between denticles
1953-55 with and without straps/folds
1965 four varieties concerning berries and the shape of the 5
1983 near beads, far beads
1985 blunt 5, pointed 5
2000 zinc and steel
Are there any other main varieties? I will post pictures of the differences for all that I can... and I'll keep this first post updated as to what is mentioned below. Thanks for all your help - keep it up!
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daviscfad
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uthminsta
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Posted - 12/06/2009 : 21:16:43
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Here's what I have - 1947 plain and 1947 maple leaf.
 
Pretty simple if you can see it, but for a new collector, I thought the info would be helpful. Sometimes the books aren't very specific, and don't have pics to help make sense of it. |
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daviscfad
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Posted - 12/06/2009 : 22:50:32
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| the one on the left is a blunt 7 the one on the right is a pointed 7. The way you tell is up by the limb notice the 2 7's. |
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Edited by - daviscfad on 12/06/2009 23:34:48 |
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uthminsta
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 12/06/2009 : 23:10:58
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Interesting - and thank you for the information! So there are THREE varieties of the 1947 cent:
Blunt 7 plain
Blunt 7 with maple leaf
Pointed 7 with maple leaf
My four-year-old has taken an interest in helping bust open rolls, and has begun calling Canadian cents "Sarah coins."  Today my grandpa and I went to a coin show and he bought her two partial collections from 1932-69 for a good price. Most of what we had already found in rolls was more recent than that. But we got four total 1947 cents - two plain and two maple leafs. Perhaps I will have the third variety... |
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daviscfad
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Posted - 12/06/2009 : 23:34:07
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yeah i said it backwards ill fix it |
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jadedragon
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Canada
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Posted - 12/07/2009 : 02:04:33
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There is only 1 transition year (like 1982 in US pennies) in Canadian pennies, it is 2000 when they went from zinc to plated steel.
The plated steel coins have a little P below the Queen. It was later transitioned to a RCM logo.
1967 (80%->50% silver and 1968 (50% silver->pure Ni) are transition years in dimes and quarters. |
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Nickelmeister
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Canada
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Posted - 12/07/2009 : 10:21:46
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| Also, the 1948/49 coins have two varieties each: "A to denticles" and "A between denticles". The 1985 has the "blunt five" and "pointed five" varieties. There is an extremely rare 1936 "dot" too! (worth $275,000) |
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uthminsta
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Posted - 12/07/2009 : 11:33:26
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Originally posted by jadedragon There is only 1 transition year (like 1982 in US pennies) in Canadian pennies, it is 2000 when they went from zinc to plated steel.
Are there any years where there were two different weights of copper? Or where the round and 12-sided coin were both issued?
Is this right?
1920-1979... 3.24g copper
1980-1981... 2.8g copper
1982-1996... 2.5g copper 12-sided
1997-2000... copper coated zinc - 2.5g?
2000-2009... copper coated steel - 2.5g? |
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uthminsta
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Posted - 12/07/2009 : 11:38:20
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This is the best I could do on a 1947 maple leaf pointed 7. Both of the maple leafs I got were pointed 7.
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JobIII
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 07:09:40
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Aside from varieties. Are there any error years for the Canadian cent?
nm just went to the second link you posted. Great sites for canadian numis. |
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jadedragon
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 09:39:03
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Are there any years where there were two different weights of copper? Or where the round and 12-sided coin were both issued?
Is this right?
1920-1979... 3.24g copper (round)
1980-1981... 2.8g copper (round - thiner)
1982-1996... 2.5g copper (12-sided)
1997-2000... copper coated zinc - 2.5g? (round)
2000-2009... copper coated steel - 2.5g? (round)
If I remember correctly my Ryedale sorting has shown me that the early 2000s involved both zinc and steel versions of the cent. I suspect the reason is a combination of cost and limited capacity in the plating equipment. |
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uthminsta
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 10:07:16
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| I don't own a Ryedale - does it sort specifically on weight, or does the composition affect the results as well? I have heard about a lot of Indians being sorted into zinc piles, so I would assume that means they are lighter because of wear, and get sorted there by weight. But that would mean that pre-80 Canadians would be sorted as coppers and 82-96 Canadians would be sorted as zincs. And what of the 80-81 Canadians? |
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Bluegill
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 11:37:05
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This is straight from the source...
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There are 4 varities of '06 cents.
Zn with no mint mark.
Zn with the RCM mint mark.
Fe with the "p" mark to indicated plated.
Fe with the RCM mint mark.
The 3rd one is the rare one. Both Zn and Fe specimens were minted '00 thru '06.
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jadedragon
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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 01:53:28
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Originally posted by uthminsta
I don't own a Ryedale - does it sort specifically on weight, or does the composition affect the results as well? I have heard about a lot of Indians being sorted into zinc piles, so I would assume that means they are lighter because of wear, and get sorted there by weight. But that would mean that pre-80 Canadians would be sorted as coppers and 82-96 Canadians would be sorted as zincs. And what of the 80-81 Canadians?
There is no sorting by weight - the Ryedale is looking at the electronic signature of the coin against a standard coin (aq US 79 penny for many of us). If you run Copper Accept all the Cu goes into a pile and everything else (zinc, steel) goes to the other pile.
I've never managed to get the Ryedale to distinguish between a US 95% Cu and any Canadian 98% Cu - so I guess the electronic sigs are pretty close. I can get it to separate US zinc from Canadian Zinc very accurately-kind of useful for picking up a 10% gain on my US zincs. |
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wolvesdad
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Posted - 12/09/2009 : 14:29:21
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| I still need to look into the Canadian cents. It is cool to vary your collection, but I don't even have many key date wheats yet! So much less Canadian varieties. |
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