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There's so much negativity in the press and elsewhere that it's easy to get caught up, and lose perspective. I'm seeing articles and fears on the Internet about the coming cannibalism, a country of refugees, unbelievable bloodshed, and being reduced to pre-Industrial Revolution times. They don't even use the conditional (ie could/would). They speak of these situations as fact. Let's take a look at some things the country has already gone through internally, to say nothing of foreign policy:
- Genocide of the Indians
- Hundreds of years of chattel slavery
- Only white males who owned property could vote
- A Civil War
- The KKK and other terrorist groups
- Jim Crow
and so on.
Things are tough right now, and they're not going to get easier soon, but worse things have come and passed. Prepare and maintain your hoards, plan ahead and don't expect everything to work, but be realistic. There will be no zombies eating brains in the streets.
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fb101
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Posted - 10/18/2009 : 16:04:12
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There will be no zombies eating brains in the streets.
No, thank God they're all in Washington now. |
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jonflyfish
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Posted - 10/18/2009 : 18:42:50
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tailwinds-
How do you know that we have faced worse when, as you stated, we don't know yet what is to come?
Even still, this list mentions events where people faced unbelievable bloodshed etc. Did people decide in those times that they would not face what was eventually to come? It is common for people to assume that it could never happen to them. The conditional "could" does not lead to your certainty that we will not. What facts determine that people will always act orderly and without violence- especially if they become desperate and hungry? People don't act rationally when under such stress. Thousands of years of documented history has proven that and there is no reason for human nature to have suddenly changed.
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Stop Making Cents
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Posted - 10/18/2009 : 18:43:12
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Oh good grief. More libtard whining and white guilt.
- Genocide of the Indians
Indian genocide? Are you aware that the Native Americans fought constant wars with one another before the white man ever arrived? Are you aware that some Native American cultures practiced human sacrifice? Are you aware that they sent their elderly off into the woods to die instead of caring for them? It is very disturbing to see the glorification of Indian life in some supposed attempt to make whites feel guilty about themselves. The Indians were total savages that worshipped rocks and trees, and they needed civilized. Will whites have "reservations" made for them as liberals such as yourself see to it that through mass immigration and welfare to minorities to encourage tehm to reproduce rapidly that whites become just another minority (but the only one that will be to blame for all of life's ills despite bringing civilization and modern convenience to the world)?
- Hundreds of years of chattel slavery
Arabs were trading african slaves many years before Americans ever did. Black savages were also the ones that sold slaves to whites.
- Only white males who owned property could vote
What's wrong with that? This country was founded by white men and was created in perpetuity for their offspring
- A Civil War
A war of genocide on Southern whites
- The KKK and other terrorist groups
What about the domestic terrorists known as blacks? Have you looked at the governement compilation of crime statistics lately? Of course not, it doesn't fit your sterotyped view of whites as evil. Yet blacks commit over half of all violent crime while only 12 % of the population.
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Corsair
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Posted - 10/18/2009 : 18:50:42
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Originally posted by Stop Making Cents
Oh good grief. More libtard whining and white guilt.
- Genocide of the Indians
Indian genocide? Are you aware that the Native Americans fought constant wars with one another before the white man ever arrived? Are you aware that some Native American cultures practiced human sacrifice? Are you aware that they sent their elderly off into the woods to die instead of caring for them? It is very disturbing to see the glorification of Indian life in some supposed attempt to make whites feel guilty about themselves. The Indians were total savages that worshipped rocks and trees, and they needed civilized. Will whites have "reservations" made for them as liberals such as yourself see to it that through mass immigration and welfare to minorities to encourage tehm to reproduce rapidly that whites become just another minority (but the only one that will be to blame for all of life's ills despite bringing civilization and modern convenience to the world)?
- Hundreds of years of chattel slavery
Arabs were trading african slaves many years before Americans ever did. Black savages were also the ones that sold slaves to whites.
- Only white males who owned property could vote
What's wrong with that? This country was founded by white men and was created in perpetuity for their offspring
- A Civil War
A war of genocide on Southern whites
- The KKK and other terrorist groups
What about the domestic terrorists known as blacks? Have you looked at the governement compilation of crime statistics lately? Of course not, it doesn't fit your sterotyped view of whites as evil. Yet blacks commit over half of all violent crime while only 12 % of the population.
These kinds of posts make me want to leave the forum. That's just ridiculous. You can't defend the horrible things that whites did to Indians because of their religion. You can't defend slavery because someone else did it first. And for the love of all things holy, I don't think that blacks are a domestic terror group. |
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psi
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Posted - 10/18/2009 : 19:27:20
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Originally posted by Stop Making Cents
What about the domestic terrorists known as blacks?
I think you've made your views clear. Hopefully the forum admins deal with the situation appropriately (a permanent ban for example). Has anyone else had a look at the forum linked to at the end of Stop Making Cents' signature? |
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Country
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Posted - 10/18/2009 : 19:41:46
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Originally posted by Stop Making Cents
Oh good grief. More libtard whining and white guilt.
- Genocide of the Indians
Indian genocide? Are you aware that the Native Americans fought constant wars with one another before the white man ever arrived? Are you aware that some Native American cultures practiced human sacrifice? Are you aware that they sent their elderly off into the woods to die instead of caring for them? It is very disturbing to see the glorification of Indian life in some supposed attempt to make whites feel guilty about themselves. The Indians were total savages that worshipped rocks and trees, and they needed civilized. Will whites have "reservations" made for them as liberals such as yourself see to it that through mass immigration and welfare to minorities to encourage tehm to reproduce rapidly that whites become just another minority (but the only one that will be to blame for all of life's ills despite bringing civilization and modern convenience to the world)?
- Hundreds of years of chattel slavery
Arabs were trading african slaves many years before Americans ever did. Black savages were also the ones that sold slaves to whites.
- Only white males who owned property could vote
What's wrong with that? This country was founded by white men and was created in perpetuity for their offspring
- A Civil War
A war of genocide on Southern whites
- The KKK and other terrorist groups
What about the domestic terrorists known as blacks? Have you looked at the governement compilation of crime statistics lately? Of course not, it doesn't fit your sterotyped view of whites as evil. Yet blacks commit over half of all violent crime while only 12 % of the population.
Give me a break - More redneck white trash talk.
Indian Genocide - Look at it from the viewpoint of the Indian. White men come to THEIR land only to steal it for themselves, destroying the Indian culture that has been in America for centuries, giving the native Indians treaties that are nothing but lies, driving out and putting Indians onto reservations only to give them blankets that give them smallpox. IT WAS GENOCIDE AND WHITE MEN STOLE THEIR LAND! Who really was the savage? Indians were annilated because rich WHITE men wanted to profit. Has anything changed today? Why do you think immigration from south of border is allowed? Don't you think that it is really to use them as cheap "plantation style" laborers here in America by companies that would profit from them. This has nothing to do with liberalism; it's just pure profit from cheap laborers. As a result of slavery and non-white immigration, today America is changing demographically. Some time soon, white Americans will be the ones marginalized and made a minority in a land once founded by WHITE men. There will be no perpetuity for the WHITE man. Look at the birth rate statistics worldwide, the white caucasian population is dwindling as the non-white population is increasing. The America of our founders is no more - it is gone. |
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Kurr
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Posted - 10/18/2009 : 19:45:41
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I am one quarter savage of the Cherokee line on my maternal side. You have saddened me greatly and took the smile right off my, face StopMakingCents. That's hard to do.
I don't even know how to reply to that kind of logic you put forth in that post, its so far past even what declared racists I know would profess. Perhaps You should start with a DVD series called "500 Nations". |
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He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?
KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
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Bluegill
1000+ Penny Miser Member
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Posted - 10/18/2009 : 21:01:24
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Originally posted by tailwinds
There's so much negativity in the press and elsewhere that it's easy to get caught up, and lose perspective. I'm seeing articles and fears on the Internet about the coming cannibalism, a country of refugees, unbelievable bloodshed, and being reduced to pre-Industrial Revolution times. They don't even use the conditional (ie could/would). They speak of these situations as fact. Let's take a look at some things the country has already gone through internally, to say nothing of foreign policy:
- Genocide of the Indians
- Hundreds of years of chattel slavery
- Only white males who owned property could vote
- A Civil War
- The KKK and other terrorist groups
- Jim Crow
and so on.
Things are tough right now, and they're not going to get easier soon, but worse things have come and passed. Prepare and maintain your hoards, plan ahead and don't expect everything to work, but be realistic. There will be no zombies eating brains in the streets.
You are comparing apples to oranges. Civil War War for Southern Independence aside, your list is made up of discriminatory acts. As horrible as they were, they always have been, currently are and always will be a part of humanity.
They how ever have absolutely nothing in common with the problems and crisis' looming on our horizon. A Central Bank, deficit spending, welfare, warfare, a fiat currency and run away inflation.
And unlike past financial crisis' where we still had a gold link, were a creditor nation and had a self reliant citizenry, we are now a debtor nation with a 100% fiat currency and an entitlement culture.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. I don't believe we are going to have a Mad Max SHTF scenario. Not even close. But Amerika's landscape will forever change.
Expect to live in a country that has more in common with a 3rd world Central American country than anything in our past.
Expect perpetual high unemployment, inflation, crime, taxes and wars. Along with a further erosion of our rights and liberties, and a lowering of the standard of living for most, if not all Amerikans. At worst we may have temporary regional shortages resulting in rationing, price fixing and anti hoarding laws. Occasional utility outages too. Also be prepared for curfews and check points everywhere.
Don't be surprised if we follow the Central/South American tradition of having a "Reform Currency" sometime in out future. Where the Nuevo Dollar will equal 100 or 1000 old Dollars...
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Delawhere Jack
1000+ Penny Miser Member
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Posted - 10/18/2009 : 21:14:00
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WOW.... WOW...... SMC, you need to learn a thing or two about diplomacy. Tailwinds, you need to learn a thing or two about reality. And Corsair, young man, you need to learn a thing or two about what happened when europeans arrived here, it was not all First Thanksgivings and peace and happiness.
All races of mankind have more skeletons in their closets than we would care to know about, or believe. My own Irish ancestors were enslaved by the British for centuries. But centuries earlier, they were taking slaves from the Roman settlements in Britain and Gaul.
Rehashing what happened a hundred plus years ago, as viewed through a prism you don't fully understand, written down by people with prejudices of their own (good, bad or indifferent), doesn't accomplish anything in the here and now. It only succeeds in driving wedges between us all, dividing us so to speak, and making us easier to concquer.
Civilizations ebb and flow. Always have, always will. Ours is no different. The barbarians displaced the Romans. She Spanish displaced the Aztecs and what was left of the Inca. The Europeans came here and displaced the Native Americans, and the Chinese will displace us (or maybe it will be the Mexicans or Arabs). Time marches on....
BTW, the chimpout link is WAY innappropriate for this site.
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Neckro
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Posted - 10/18/2009 : 21:35:21
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| When it comes down to it, everyone will end up screwing everyone else over. Humanity is a destructive force, it doesn't care what color your skin is. |
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Stop Making Cents
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 07:03:12
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I would like to apologize for upsetting anyone. It just seems today that whites are blamed for everything wrong in this world, so I am (probably too much) defensive about it.
I am rumored to be part Native American myself, and the ones I have met have been great people. I did not mean to imply otherwise, and I hope you will accept my apology. But I do believe that there is a misguided effort to paint pre-Columbian peoples as "noble savages" that lived in a world of gumdrops and lollipops until the evil white man came along. One of the main reasons that whites conquered the Americas is because of different Indian groups joining their sides and fighting other Indians. |
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Kurr
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 09:51:52
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Let me be the first to accept that appology. I did not expect it, and would not have asked. I still believe in free speech, and folks should feel free to express their own opinion.
I think TPTB want us divided. I think the internationalists would LOVE some kind of "race war" to start so they could come in and do "peacekeeping" and "stabalize" us.
I think that talk of ceding our soveriegnty to UN treaties on ANYTHING is about as serious as it comes.
Even the civil war came down to "ya'll do what you want" (union), but we're (confederacy) leavin. Now it seems that the U.S. will allow it self to be governed by international bodies,
Our congress has simply become corperate aquisitions, they vote out laws, just like the coperate lawyers write those laws for the companies, and the mail room boys send em to the congress. From the mail room to the legislative floor, all bought and paid for, not representing the people, but the naked subserviance to international corperations.
This is the worst I think we have faced. |
The silver [is] mine, and the gold [is] mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Hag 2:8 [/b]
He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?
KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
Good reading: http://ecclesia.org/truth/government.html
A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears
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Nickelless
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 17:36:06
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Originally posted by Stop Making Cents
What about the domestic terrorists known as blacks?
I think you've made your views clear. Hopefully the forum admins deal with the situation appropriately (a permanent ban for example). Has anyone else had a look at the forum linked to at the end of Stop Making Cents' signature?
I've brought this to the attention of the other admins and moderators.
EDIT: The admins have now locked this thread. |
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Copper Catcher
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Posted - 10/19/2009 : 18:07:07
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