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Market Harmony
1000+ Penny Miser Member


USA
1274 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2009 :  18:51:36  Show Profile Send Market Harmony a Private Message
A new service has been in development for the last few months. The past 2 weeks of this have been very busy for me, and everything is now in place to really ramp things up. Learn more about the Precious Metal Refining Service here:

You must be logged in to see this link.

You may have seen a realcent member's post about the bars that they received in return for the scrap that they sent in recently. I hope that I can offer this same service to more members here.

btw: My prices kill the competition!!!

Spread the word, please

Kind Regards,

Michael

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Megaman
Penny Pincher Member



USA
173 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2009 :  19:15:14  Show Profile Send Megaman a Private Message
Good Luck (:, and Btw your prices KILL "Cash4gold", its more like "Pennies4gold".

Must hoard more......
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digitalfour
Penny Sorter Member



74 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2009 :  19:27:11  Show Profile Send digitalfour a Private Message
Very cool! I hope it goes well for you.

Edited by - digitalfour on 10/18/2009 17:27:30
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Market Harmony
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1274 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2009 :  20:37:18  Show Profile Send Market Harmony a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by digitalfour

Very cool! How do your prices and service compare to (competitor link deleted by jadedragon)?



gee, thanks for putting up a competitors information on a thread about my operations. Do you work for them?

You just cannot compare one refinery with another. A refinery can claim that they pay out XX% and they will... but you have to think about this some more. Every refinery pays out on the total weight and assay results that THEY determine. You can send a lot of scrap to one refinery and they may process your scrap one way, while another refinery will process it another way. One way will always be better than the other.

For example:

You have a bunch of loose scrap and bags of grindings and filter dust. It weighs 40 pounds, total. If you send it to a top tier company, they will get every last bit of dust and grindings and whatever else that can contain precious metal and process that lot. Then they melt it down to a homogenous solid bar and further process it so that the assay equipment can give the most accurate information possible on the lot. Then this top tier refinery double checks all the records to ensure accuracy and after all of this effort and assurance built into the process, they call you up as soon as everything is clear, and settle the lot with you in a straight forward manner, clearly defined and for all to see.

But think what happens if you send it to another refinery that may be sloppy with their work and poor in their melting and assaying... you just can't be sure what you get from them! A 40 pound lot sent to them may yield 3 ounces of gold with their methods and assay. But that same lot sent to a top tier refinery could get 4 ounces of gold from that same lot. The sloppy guy pay 95% of 3, and the professionals pay 80% of 4. You do the math and figure out which one is the better deal.

Simply claiming that you pay out XX% means nothing... what matters is HOW MUCH YOU ACTUALLY RECOVER. This is why I've developed the relationship with the refinery that I have chosen.

Kind Regards,

Michael

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daviscfad
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1664 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2009 :  20:54:04  Show Profile Send daviscfad a Private Message
nice to know! i will help spread the word!

Inquiring minds want to know
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JobIII
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1507 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2009 :  20:59:21  Show Profile Send JobIII a Private Message
Je dit, "Laissez-Faire".

Selling Copper cents. $0 FV available at 1.4xFV. Also interested in trading for wheat pennies and other coins Please pm me for requests or inquiries.



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Gr33nday43
New Member



Uzbekistan
10 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2009 :  21:31:34  Show Profile  Send Gr33nday43 a Yahoo! Message Send Gr33nday43 a Private Message
Digitalfour, I do think that was a bit rude to post a competitors link, however, most people in the PM scrap business know about them and their quality of service. But, here at Realcent we know the quality of Michael's work and that he can be trusted. I think most members would also rather support a member here instead of a company. I know I would. Michael, I wish you luck in the dangerous refining business. Are you using the agua regia method? What are you using for precipitating gold out of solution? Back when I was crazy enough to start thinking about doing this I was going to use sulfur dioxide. LMK,
Taylor.
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Neckro
1000+ Penny Miser Member



Saudi Arabia
2080 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2009 :  21:36:33  Show Profile  Send Neckro an AOL message  Click to see Neckro's MSN Messenger address  Send Neckro a Yahoo! Message Send Neckro a Private Message
He isn't doing the refining. He's got a company to do it for him. He's the middle man

Refining:
Market Harmony has developed a key relationship with a top tier precious metal refinery. This gives us the ability to offer some of the best rates in the industry for processing scrap precious metals. Forget the commercials that you see on TV, all of your refining and scrap selling needs can be handled by Market Harmony. Give us a try, and you will see for yourself how our services are better than others. The process is easy to understand, and easy to use.

Trolling is an art.
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AFModell
Penny Sorter Member



USA
82 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2009 :  14:33:17  Show Profile Send AFModell a Private Message
Out of curiosity, and not that I have enough to do it, but do they refine war nickels? Good luck on the venture!

A penny saved is...TWO pennies earned!
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Dumpster Diver
Penny Collector Member



USA
474 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2009 :  16:58:07  Show Profile Send Dumpster Diver a Private Message
Congrats Michael...PM sent.

"You're not really gonna throw that out...are you"?
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digitalfour
Penny Sorter Member



74 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2009 :  17:33:07  Show Profile Send digitalfour a Private Message
Didn't mean to cause bad feelings. Thanks for the information Michael. PM Sent.
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jtm3
Penny Pincher Member



USA
187 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2009 :  17:41:49  Show Profile Send jtm3 a Private Message
Is there a minimum weight for how much you can send?

Thanks,

JTM

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Market Harmony
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1274 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2009 :  21:38:02  Show Profile Send Market Harmony a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Gr33nday43
...Are you using the agua regia method? What are you using for precipitating gold out of solution?...


The refining is performed with aqua regia. I'm not sure about the rest. I'll be learning more and more about the entire operation over time. It won't be dangerous for me.

quote:
Originally posted by AFModell
Out of curiosity, and not that I have enough to do it, but do they refine war nickels? Good luck on the venture!



silver war nickels can be purchased, but at a pretty big discount to spot price. It would probably be best to sell them directly in a marketplace like here or eBay

quote:
Originally posted by digitalfour
Didn't mean to cause bad feelings. Thanks for the information Michael. PM Sent.



Absolutely no hard or bad feelings on my part. It is certainly important to know about all the opportunities that the refining market has to offer. A question to compare one company with another is certainly valid, and I actully appreciated the opportunity to respond to the question here. I was just hoping that when I started a thread about my business that responses would not include links to competitors. At first glance, it may seem undermining. But, as I stated, I actually appreciated the opportunity to respond to an honest inquiry.

quote:
Originally posted by jtm3
Is there a minimum weight for how much you can send?



There is no minimum or maximum. However, you must keep in mind that certain fixed costs are involved. It would not be cost effective to send in a small amount when fixed costs will reduce the return by a bigger percentage. As a friendly piece of advice, I would suggest that 500 grams would be a good minimum. However, I will accept any sized lot, whether it is 50 or 50,000 grams.

Kind Regards,

Michael

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