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PreservingThePast
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
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Posted - 10/07/2009 :  20:35:18  Show Profile Send PreservingThePast a Private Message
Zseabass...welcome to our world. A world where a fun hobby can sometimes become a little profitable.

JobIII...I'm not wanting to come across as offensive and I have absolutely no idea what sort of circumstances that zseabass is experiencing. HOWEVER, nothing in this world is absolute. Nothing, is black and white. Nothing, is cut and dry.

I know you were speaking to him but it touched me and hurt me deeply. I have prayed day and night for over five years now for my health to be better, for my eyes to be healed to where I could once again drive, for me to be able to go out and be able to get a job and work. BUT, these prayers have fallen on deaf ears, or so it seems to me.

I can't work as I can't drive and we don't live anywhere near public transportation. There is nothing in walking distance that I could work.

Yes, I look upon searching the coins as a hobby and a labor of love for the birthday coin projects that I am doing for the kids. But, as I sit and sort I literally thank God each and every time a roll isn't shorted. And I give extra praise anytime I find something interesting that I might be able to sell down the road for a little bit of money, as I was able to do last year with some 1998 and 2000 Wide AMs.

And, no, I am not fortunate to be receiving any sort of disability coverage. Life is rough these days, for so many of us. The world is in very uncertain times.

So, please don't assume that a person can automatically go out and find a job. I'd literally give almost anything I could to be able to do just that!

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2009 :  23:49:12  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
I need to earn money for food, clothes and a mortgage too.. and to support a bad coin habit. I'm sure most of the members here do. Obviously the margins are not great right now, but not everyone is as well capitalized as they would like. We all buy, sell or hoard as our circumstances allow. I myself sold off a few tons when copper was at it's peak and diversified into silver and gold. I think most folks here have done the calculations, and yet we continue to sort. Why? Perhaps we enjoy the hobby, and by selling off some of what we sort it allows us to continue without having to raid the family treasury or take food off the table. It can also help keep things harmoneous on the home front if the SO sees a net inflow of cash from the operation.. however meager. How many hobbies are not big drains of cash on the family budget?

Sure, there are plenty of ways to make more money, but how much fun are they? I would never belittle another member's efforts to enjoy the hobby, or try to discourage them in any way.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.
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metalmoney.ca
Penny Pincher Member



Canada
223 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2009 :  07:34:31  Show Profile Send metalmoney.ca a Private Message
The last thing I`m sure we want to see on this forum is someone that is hungry and can`t buy food because he has $800 in pennies that he can`t sell quick enough. I`m thinking that is JobIII`s fear, and cause for concern. It`s a cheap hobby, but it really can be addictive. I started sorting before i got a car, and I have a mountain of zinc... it`s a lot of money `tied up`

If you aren`t gonna need a thousand bux or so, then he can hand sort, sell, and repeat. But if he`s paying 20% on a credit card while he`s doing it (just an example, i have no idea...like preserving the past said, nothing is absolute) then it`s probably not a good idea to do it to scratch out a buck.
just my opinion...

metal is a claim on future human labour. let's all go get some while the getting is good, eh?
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JobIII
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1507 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2009 :  08:47:41  Show Profile Send JobIII a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by PreservingThePast

Zseabass...welcome to our world. A world where a fun hobby can sometimes become a little profitable.

JobIII...I'm not wanting to come across as offensive and I have absolutely no idea what sort of circumstances that zseabass is experiencing. HOWEVER, nothing in this world is absolute. Nothing, is black and white. Nothing, is cut and dry.

I know you were speaking to him but it touched me and hurt me deeply. I have prayed day and night for over five years now for my health to be better, for my eyes to be healed to where I could once again drive, for me to be able to go out and be able to get a job and work. BUT, these prayers have fallen on deaf ears, or so it seems to me.

I can't work as I can't drive and we don't live anywhere near public transportation. There is nothing in walking distance that I could work.

Yes, I look upon searching the coins as a hobby and a labor of love for the birthday coin projects that I am doing for the kids. But, as I sit and sort I literally thank God each and every time a roll isn't shorted. And I give extra praise anytime I find something interesting that I might be able to sell down the road for a little bit of money, as I was able to do last year with some 1998 and 2000 Wide AMs.

And, no, I am not fortunate to be receiving any sort of disability coverage. Life is rough these days, for so many of us. The world is in very uncertain times.

So, please don't assume that a person can automatically go out and find a job. I'd literally give almost anything I could to be able to do just that!





I'm not really sure you grasped my message to Zseabass. I'm glad that you found success through prayer PTP, but prayer doesn't feed people, cloth them, or help them pay a mortgage.

Nice comments, PTP, but they are off topic considering his initial post, regarding his need for money and a desire to earn more through copper searching. Why should any one be misguided?

Selling Copper cents. $0 FV available at 1.4xFV. Also interested in trading for wheat pennies and other coins Please pm me for requests or inquiries.



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JobIII
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1507 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2009 :  08:58:43  Show Profile Send JobIII a Private Message
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Sure, there are plenty of ways to make more money, but how much fun are they? I would never belittle another member's efforts to enjoy the hobby, or try to discourage them in any way.



I just think we are all overlooking the big issue that enjoyment isn't really a primary focus when your children and home are in jeopardy.

I've been trying to huck copper lots and haven't had any luck, but the funds i'm using aren't being diverted from anything important.

I really just don't see anyone that needs money for real-time issues, making what they need through this line of work (hobby).



Selling Copper cents. $0 FV available at 1.4xFV. Also interested in trading for wheat pennies and other coins Please pm me for requests or inquiries.



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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator



USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2009 :  09:38:31  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
I went back and reread zseabass's original post. It can be interpreted a couple of different ways. I interpeted it to say that he wanted to enjoy the hobby, but did not have extra capital to tie up in building a large hoard. He said he could however enjoy the hobby if he could market his copper to other members. I didn't see anything that said his home and children are in jeapordy, just that they come first. Job keyed on the phrase "I need money" and offered advise on more lucrative endeavors. If money is your main motivation, then he certainly is correct that a second job would be a much more viable alternative. There might be a bit of a line for that job, though. Many folks in this country would be happy to get a 1st job. If your primary job is sufficient to meet your monthly obligations but there is not a lot of fat in the budget for hobbies, then one can enjoy this hobby without tying up significant amounts of capital by cycling their working capital with timely deposits of zinc and selling off each shipment of copper as it is developed for a meager profit and return of capital.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.
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JobIII
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1507 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2009 :  16:23:04  Show Profile Send JobIII a Private Message
Hey sorry if i went over board. Both sides have been presented... and sales are being made thanks to HCBTT. So everyone wins!

on to the weekend.

Selling Copper cents. $0 FV available at 1.4xFV. Also interested in trading for wheat pennies and other coins Please pm me for requests or inquiries.



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