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jadedragon
Administrator


Canada
3788 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2009 :  23:10:39  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
Ended up with access to 20 or so old computers. Anything I should do or remove before they go to recycle?

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Computer Jones
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1112 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2009 :  23:20:25  Show Profile Send Computer Jones a Private Message
I like the magnets in the hard drives.

The Gold refining forum has a lot more info on where the good stuff is, like the "fingers" on cards and sockets as well as the processors.
There's lots of Cu wire in the power supplies.

There's profit if you melt things!!
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silversaddle1
Penny Pincher Member



USA
103 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2009 :  05:44:10  Show Profile Send silversaddle1 a Private Message
Yes, take the time to take them apart.
Sell parts as follows.

Printed curciut- boards $2.40pound
power supplys- .15 pound
hard drives- .30 pound
memory sticks- $6.00 pound
processors- E bay!!!
mixed drives CD ROM/floppy- .10 pound
copper wire wplastic- .55 pound
steel .10 pound
alumnium- .40 pound
plastics- recycle center or landfill

It add up and will make it worth your time.

Prices are what our local yard pays as of this week.

I have been recycling E-scrap for 10 years now, it has been very-very good to me!
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aloneibreak
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
672 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2009 :  19:50:40  Show Profile Send aloneibreak a Private Message
.10 / lb for steel sounds pretty good...

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson
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silversaddle1
Penny Pincher Member



USA
103 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2009 :  06:11:36  Show Profile Send silversaddle1 a Private Message
Sorry, my bad.

.07 per pound or $140.00 per ton.

.10 per pound is my prepared plate & strucural price.
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CoinHunter53562
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1805 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2009 :  21:15:57  Show Profile Send CoinHunter53562 a Private Message
Good stuff. I was just going to ask about this since I buy up used laser printers, part them out for the parts I need/want, and get rid of the rest. I'll start keeping the printed circuit boards and other parts.

My hobby: collecting real money 1 copper cent or nickel at a time.

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moboman
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
2555 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2009 :  10:08:40  Show Profile Send moboman a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by silversaddle1

Prices are what our local yard pays as of this week.

I have been recycling E-scrap for 10 years now, it has been very-very good to me!



What does your local yard do with the hard drives when they come in? And next question where are you located? At 30 cents per pound, I could afford to ship them to the yard.... But I'd like to see them shredded.

"99% of all lawyers give the rest of them a bad name"


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silversaddle1
Penny Pincher Member



USA
103 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2009 :  22:21:27  Show Profile Send silversaddle1 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by moboman

quote:
Originally posted by silversaddle1

Prices are what our local yard pays as of this week.

I have been recycling E-scrap for 10 years now, it has been very-very good to me!



What does your local yard do with the hard drives when they come in? And next question where are you located? At 30 cents per pound, I could afford to ship them to the yard.... But I'd like to see them shredded.



For security reasons we do crush our drives before they go to the recycler. In order to get the .30 per pound the drive can be crushed, but not shredded. Also, the PCB must remain on the drive. Our yard is Alters Trading located in Omaha. Brian is the contact person.

Scott
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ZigMeister
Penny Pincher Member



USA
229 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2009 :  18:22:51  Show Profile Send ZigMeister a Private Message
I just bought 13 computer circuit boards (about 4.5 lbs.) at a yard sale Saturday thinking I can get $2 plus a lb...my 1st scrapping purchase.
Just called my local scrap yard to see if they were interested and they said there is not much demand for them and they would only pay .05 /lb. Any ideas where in Phoenix I could get the $2.40 /lb others are getting?
I also picked up a set of 10' jumper cables for scrap (my 2nd purchase) and he said they would pay .60 to .70 /lb...I'm not sure how much they weigh.
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Dumpster Diver
Penny Collector Member



USA
474 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2009 :  19:10:30  Show Profile Send Dumpster Diver a Private Message
ZigMeister- you should strip those jumper cables...Run a razor knife along it and just peel the copper out. These are my favorite scrap find- a lot of copper for little effort!

"You're not really gonna throw that out...are you"?
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ZigMeister
Penny Pincher Member



USA
229 Posts

Posted - 10/13/2009 :  00:43:18  Show Profile Send ZigMeister a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dumpster Diver

ZigMeister- you should strip those jumper cables...Run a razor knife along it and just peel the copper out. These are my favorite scrap find- a lot of copper for little effort!



Thanks Dumpster, but unfortunately in AZ it is illegal to scrap stripped wire...must leave the insulation on. About how much would an average set of 10' jumper cables weigh?
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Dumpster Diver
Penny Collector Member



USA
474 Posts

Posted - 10/13/2009 :  20:07:16  Show Profile Send Dumpster Diver a Private Message
Not sure...I never weighed them but I've found the older they are the more copper is in them. Like everything else, they find a way to produce a cheaper product at a higher price. I try to find them at yard sales and offer a buck or two depending on the gauge.
Also, look for spools of wire if you go to yard sales. They usually aren't even for sale, but if you spot a spool in the garage, make an offer- usually everything has to go!

"You're not really gonna throw that out...are you"?
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silversaddle1
Penny Pincher Member



USA
103 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2009 :  16:14:33  Show Profile Send silversaddle1 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ZigMeister

quote:
Originally posted by Dumpster Diver

ZigMeister- you should strip those jumper cables...Run a razor knife along it and just peel the copper out. These are my favorite scrap find- a lot of copper for little effort!



Thanks Dumpster, but unfortunately in AZ it is illegal to scrap stripped wire...must leave the insulation on. About how much would an average set of 10' jumper cables weigh?




I find it very hard to believe that you can not sell stripped bare copper in AZ. I do believe that it may be illegal to sell burnt copper wire.
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ZigMeister
Penny Pincher Member



USA
229 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2009 :  12:47:40  Show Profile Send ZigMeister a Private Message
I too found it hard to believe. Hobo who lives down in Tucson posted a link to the AZ law when I had an earlier question. Seems it was the Legislature's attempt to help curtail the theft of wire from houses and other buildings. I have not yet taken anything to the scrap yard here but talked to a friend who retired from his own contracting business and he said he took abount $100 worth of scrap (some copper and an old aluminum ladder) and he said they treated him like a criminal giving him the 3rd degree, copying his driver's license for a photo and copying his license plate info. Not the country I grew up in.
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country_bumpkin
Penny Sorter Member



USA
86 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2009 :  13:10:44  Show Profile Send country_bumpkin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ZigMeister...he said he took abount $100 worth of scrap (some copper and an old aluminum ladder) and he said they treated him like a criminal giving him the 3rd degree, copying his driver's license for a photo and copying his license plate info. Not the country I grew up in.


See the U.S.S.A. in your Chevrolet!

Same in my state. Scrapyards take a scan of your D.L. Once you are in their system, they just punch in your number each time you visit. It doesn't stop thieves, and it's a PITA for everyone else, but it lets the elected weasels pat themselves on the back for "doing something".




“He who goes a-borrowing, goes a-sorrowing.”

- Benjamin Franklin
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hobo finds
Penny Hoarding Member



838 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2009 :  17:02:34  Show Profile Send hobo finds a Private Message
AZ law no striped wire. You must be logged in to see this link.
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silversaddle1
Penny Pincher Member



USA
103 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2009 :  18:52:09  Show Profile Send silversaddle1 a Private Message
No worries!

Copper Bright and Shiny (stripped wire) only accepted from Industrial Accounts.


I'm covered!
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silversaddle1
Penny Pincher Member



USA
103 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2009 :  18:56:37  Show Profile Send silversaddle1 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by country_bumpkin

quote:
Originally posted by ZigMeister...he said he took abount $100 worth of scrap (some copper and an old aluminum ladder) and he said they treated him like a criminal giving him the 3rd degree, copying his driver's license for a photo and copying his license plate info. Not the country I grew up in.


See the U.S.S.A. in your Chevrolet!

Same in my state. Scrapyards take a scan of your D.L. Once you are in their system, they just punch in your number each time you visit. It doesn't stop thieves, and it's a PITA for everyone else, but it lets the elected weasels pat themselves on the back for "doing something".








By the way, if you ever thought these new laws were enacted to deter theft, you are mistaken. These new ID laws are in place to catch the scrappers that are not reporting their scrap incomes. It's true.
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hobo finds
Penny Hoarding Member



838 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2009 :  20:33:01  Show Profile Send hobo finds a Private Message
Who would report there scrap income? Could I deduct the gas and time to break down the stuff? These laws are for the meth heads just like as they keep certain over the counter drugs behind the pharmacy window! Also if us scrapers are recycling precious resources we should also get credits for that on our taxes!
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silversaddle1
Penny Pincher Member



USA
103 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2009 :  21:11:57  Show Profile Send silversaddle1 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by hobo finds

Who would report there scrap income? Could I deduct the gas and time to break down the stuff? These laws are for the meth heads just like as they keep certain over the counter drugs behind the pharmacy window! Also if us scrapers are recycling precious resources we should also get credits for that on our taxes!



Wrong. I've been doing this type of work for over 25 years. I make my living on recycling. I have no other job. Believe me, if you make enough money at it, you will draw unwanted attention to yourself from the alphabet government club. Rule of thumb, if your scrap income makes up 25% of your gross income, you better be reporting it. The good thing is then you can start deducting things like trucks, fuel, insurance, etc. Don't get caught with your fly down.
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El Dee
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
547 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2009 :  21:47:21  Show Profile Send El Dee a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by hobo finds

Who would report there scrap income? Could I deduct the gas and time to break down the stuff? These laws are for the meth heads just like as they keep certain over the counter drugs behind the pharmacy window! Also if us scrapers are recycling precious resources we should also get credits for that on our taxes!



What Silver said.

If it's your business, yes you should. No different than a carpenter or anyone else. You would be able to deduct the gas (IRS mileage rate) for chasing the stuff. Any tools, insurance, supplies, etc, IRA deductions as well.

The IRS wants your taxes, they don't give you a credit for making money. Just FYI.




Trust the government? Ask an Indian.

Edited by - El Dee on 10/20/2009 21:50:08
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Posted - 10/26/2009 :  23:37:27  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
they want you to thro it away so the local recycling centers(owned by the county/state) can charge you taxes to dump and then sell it for more profit.

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