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biglouddrunk
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Posted - 09/19/2009 :  02:15:12  Show Profile Send biglouddrunk a Private Message
Has anybody read the rule that we call the melt ban? Does it ban the destruction of pennies or just the melting of pennies? I would assume it ban the destruction of them. The reason I ask is I envision some day they will be used as feed stock for brass platers. They don't melt pennies rather dissolve them. If brass platers used them it would fix the 5% zinc problem. Most brass platers use a higher percentage of zinc than is contained normal brass so they would have to use a mix of pennies and zinc anodes.

Cerulean
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Posted - 09/21/2009 :  14:10:05  Show Profile Send Cerulean a Private Message
What is the difference between melting coins and destroying coins?

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jtm3
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Posted - 09/21/2009 :  14:24:51  Show Profile Send jtm3 a Private Message
If your melting you are definitly destroying them, but destroying them doesn't necessarily mean your melting them.

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hobo finds
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Posted - 09/21/2009 :  15:06:09  Show Profile Send hobo finds a Private Message
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biglouddrunk
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Posted - 09/21/2009 :  20:52:31  Show Profile Send biglouddrunk a Private Message
I guess dissolving them would count as treatment.
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PennySaved
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Posted - 09/22/2009 :  13:18:46  Show Profile Send PennySaved a Private Message
It says in those rules that you can ship out of the country for coin collecting reasons; I assume that would include copper investment.

Is it legal for someone out of the country to melt them? ie someone in Canada or Mexico

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highroller4321
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Posted - 09/22/2009 :  13:52:42  Show Profile Send highroller4321 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by PennySaved

It says in those rules that you can ship out of the country for coin collecting reasons; I assume that would include copper investment.

Is it legal for someone out of the country to melt them? ie someone in Canada or Mexico



Yes,why would it be illegal for someone else to melt/destroy another countries coins?

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NotABigDeal
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Posted - 09/22/2009 :  17:25:47  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message
This always brings up the pressed penny discussion. So I'll just it bring it up.

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oober
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Posted - 09/22/2009 :  17:28:31  Show Profile Send oober a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by NotABigDeal

This always brings up the pressed penny discussion. So I'll just it bring it up.

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Correct, then its not a coin and thus can be melted... Is there a law stating how many elongated pennies I can make in a yr?
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jtm3
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Posted - 09/22/2009 :  17:32:15  Show Profile Send jtm3 a Private Message
Question...!

Can I elongate my coppers and THEN melt them?

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Kurr
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Posted - 09/22/2009 :  18:13:13  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
Theoreticly as I understand it, yes.

The theory goes that by elongating it or overstriking it, you are adding labor and your resources to make a more valuable product. Those elongated pennies have a big following on ebay for many many times more than the melt value would be.

Same thing with overstrikes such as one member here does. To add the labor and resources neded to make the product then to melt that product for the mere metal content would be a tremendous waste of time and resources.

Theoreticly.


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jtm3
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Posted - 09/22/2009 :  18:39:29  Show Profile Send jtm3 a Private Message
Would taking them down to the train tracks count as adding labor/resources?

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