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Nickelless
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Posted - 08/07/2009 :  21:30:11  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
I just saw a blurb on David Morgan's blog about rhodium and I found this chart:

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Rhodium went from under $900 an ounce in 2004 to close to $10,000 in late 2007, and now it's back down around +/- $1500. Anyone familiar with rhodium and know what the story has been the past five years or so?


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Posted - 08/07/2009 :  21:35:29  Show Profile  Send Gr33nday43 a Yahoo! Message Send Gr33nday43 a Private Message
I know that the only really "reliable" way to invest in it is kitco pool accounts...and that it is highly based on the auto industry. It's pretty much like going to the casino; who knows what would happen. Investing in a few ounces wouldn't hurt that bad though if it went to even 5k, or higher if the auto industry rebounds.
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Nickelless
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Posted - 08/07/2009 :  21:45:49  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
I can't see myself paying $1500 an ounce for rhodium when that same $1500 will get me about 100 ozs. of silver at current prices. Everyone here knows that I'm a huge silverbug. Plus, "rhodiumbug" just doesn't have the same ring to it.


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Neckro
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Posted - 08/07/2009 :  21:51:15  Show Profile  Send Neckro an AOL message  Click to see Neckro's MSN Messenger address  Send Neckro a Yahoo! Message Send Neckro a Private Message
everyone who owns a car is a rhodium investor. =D

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Nickelless
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Posted - 08/07/2009 :  21:52:23  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Neckro

everyone who owns a car is a rhodium investor. =D

So has rhodium's spike and drop mirrored the auto industry? Quite frankly, I wasn't watching Detroit until GM and everyone else started begging Uncle Sam for money.


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Gr33nday43
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Posted - 08/07/2009 :  22:20:29  Show Profile  Send Gr33nday43 a Yahoo! Message Send Gr33nday43 a Private Message
Yes, for the most part.
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oober
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Posted - 08/08/2009 :  07:51:15  Show Profile Send oober a Private Message
Rhodium's main use is in catalytic converters and as a plating over jewelery.... 2 industries that have been pretty crappy for a long time...

Personally I believe the price spike in Rhodium was caused by the auto industry stocking up on the metal... I dont believe we will see 10k again in for a long long time.
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biglouddrunk
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Posted - 08/09/2009 :  16:17:53  Show Profile Send biglouddrunk a Private Message
Catalyst metal like Rhodium are very expensive and a very high risk/reward proposition. The tend to be that way because they are limited to one industry and often only a few companies. To put it in another way the price of such metals are controlled by only a few people. Check out the charts of Iridium and Rhenium.
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jonflyfish
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Posted - 08/09/2009 :  17:18:45  Show Profile  Send jonflyfish a Yahoo! Message Send jonflyfish a Private Message
No wonder the gov't has a cash for clunker program LOL

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Posted - 08/09/2009 :  18:37:51  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
You may want to consider a few of the 1 gram coins. I can't see these things being made much longer and the wait time is very long from the maker. "Melt value" is all you'll hear about on this forum from the coin dealers. As if they have a ready source of Rhodium coins available at "melt price".
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Posted - 08/10/2009 :  04:11:55  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
trouble with the metals used in pollution control is that they are somewhat interchangable. So when one goes up too much, the automakers switch to another metal. This drives the prices up and down like crazy. If you like the thrill, take the ride.

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Posted - 08/10/2009 :  20:01:20  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by jadedragon

trouble with the metals used in pollution control is that they are somewhat interchangable. So when one goes up too much, the automakers switch to another metal. This drives the prices up and down like crazy. If you like the thrill, take the ride.



Once again, I'm not saying to put THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS into 1 Gram Rhodium coins. All I'm saying is that these are very UNIQUE bullion products. They could possibly be worth much more than the "MELT VALUE" all the coin dealers on this forum seem to be so concerned about. The coin dealers on this forum are only concerned about "melt value" and they loath the online auctions. The online auctions will tell you the REAL WORLD value of the item you are trying to sell. Trust me. Watch the AUCTIONS and ignore the melt value guys here. Nothing personal but the guys on this forum are a "frugal bunch" or so I've been told. Take care.,
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Neckro
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Posted - 08/10/2009 :  20:28:57  Show Profile  Send Neckro an AOL message  Click to see Neckro's MSN Messenger address  Send Neckro a Yahoo! Message Send Neckro a Private Message
I'd buy one, but I've acquired a sudden fetish for Kookaburra's =/

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moboman
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Posted - 08/10/2009 :  20:46:33  Show Profile Send moboman a Private Message
I was told the rhodium spike had something to do with a mine in south africa loosing power. I'm not sure of the source, but it would make sense if that was one of the only supply mines and all the sudden they werent supplying.

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