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Coll3ctor
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Bluegill
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Posted - 07/08/2009 : 17:37:39
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The Planet earth is alive, constantly moving and changing like everything else in the universe. It doesn’t just sit there and rotate the sun. Continents move, volcanoes erupt, seas rise and fall, species come and go, and.., climates change…
There have been 4 ice ages that we know of. The cycle has been fairly consistent. We are about due for the 5th. In between these cycles are mini ice ages and warm spells.
During the transition period from the middle ages to the renaissance their was a very warm period. Warmer than anything on record. So warm that scientist attribute it to being the foundation for the renaissance.
England was warm enough to grow grapes for wine making. Greenland was called Greenland because it was green. There was a northern passage across the north of Canada.
Because of this mild climate food production was able to sky rocket, allowing for the expansion of agriculture and populations to feed themselves properly. Also allowing for the expansion of the human race.
There was also a very cold period called the mini ice age that occurred right after that during the 17th and 18th centuries. The extreme cold of Valley forge was a result of this. So was the iced over Delaware river during the same time period. It also resulted in famines thought out the world. 1816 was called the “year without a summer”
The planet’s climate changes with average planet temperatures going from warm to cold in cycles. It has nothing to do with exhaust emissions. The planet would be doing what it is doing even if homo sapiens didn’t exist. We are just going for a ride.
Only man could be so arrogant to think he is so special that he thinks the planet is not allowed to change. If it does, he thinks he could or should attempt to alter the climate.
Global warming , or climate change is junk science. It is the collectivists agenda for their plan at establishing an international feudal system through wealth redistribution.
Do some research and follow the money, and see who is going to benefit from this fraud…
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Delawhere Jack
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Posted - 07/08/2009 : 18:23:45
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quote: Originally posted by Gr33nday43
I don't believe humans can affect - negatively or positively, whatsoever. The amount of co2 released by humans is such a minuscule amount compared to the rest of the atmosphere, that it would be crazy to assume that we would have an effect on something so huge as the climate.
Hear-hear! If anyone doubts it, go to Wikipedia and search for "mass of earths' atmosphere". Compare that to the amount of "carbon" we put in the atmosphere. It's a mouse fart in a hurricane!
One of my all time favorites from the MARXISTS LIARS pushing this horse-sht was an article that said "CO2 rises to the upper atmosphere where it creates a trap for heat radiated from the earth...."
CO2 is heavier than air! it doesn't rise anywhere!
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"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty." Thomas Jefferson
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Delawhere Jack
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Posted - 07/08/2009 : 18:45:06
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quote: Originally posted by Bluegill
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Here's a little gem from that MARXIST FILTH that wrote the article Mr North references. From discoverthenetworks.org:
quote: In contrast to the free-market order it seeks to succeed, Heilbroner acknowledges, the People's State of Marx
will require [vast] authority over economic activity. The huge productive apparatus of contemporary industrial society ... [and t]he nature of the production process itself ... will have to be redesigned, if the work experience of socialism is to differ from that of capitalism. And of course the distribution of income must undergo radical change....
All this requires the use of political command.... [I]t requires the curtailment of the central economic freedom of bourgeois society, namely the right of individuals to own, and therefore to withhold if they wish, the means of production, including their own labor. The full preservation of this bourgeois freedom would place the attainment of socialism at the mercy of property owners who could threaten to deny their services to society [i.e., the socialist government] -- and again I refer to their labor, not just to material resources -- if their terms were not met.
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Get on the phone (forget email), call your senators and tell them that passing cap and trade is nothing short of an ACT OF WAR on the sovierngty of the USA!
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"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty." Thomas Jefferson
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