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Ardent Listener
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USA
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Posted - 06/25/2009 :  20:48:12  Show Profile Send Ardent Listener a Private Message
So what do you think? Many indicators seem to point us coming out of the recession slowly or a V shaped recovery. I got this nagging hunch that this is going to be more like a W shaped recession with a collapse again before we come all the way out of it. Who else is getting ready for round # two?

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Edited by - Nickelless on 06/25/2009 21:30:26

Nickelless
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USA
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Posted - 06/25/2009 :  20:53:31  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
What makes you think we'll get out of this one, given the huge expansion of the money supply? I'm not so optimistic, Ardent.


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kieblera5
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Posted - 06/25/2009 :  21:29:08  Show Profile  Send kieblera5 an AOL message Send kieblera5 a Private Message
HA I read the title and thought we were saying that W. shaped this recession. I think that this recession is definately not a V shape; however, I'm not so sure that it is a W either. With many countries wanting to ditch the USD, we may never come out of this.
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That's more like it.

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Nickelless
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USA
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Posted - 06/25/2009 :  21:31:22  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
Me too, Kieblera, so I added a hyphen to the title.


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kieblera5
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USA
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Posted - 06/25/2009 :  22:39:12  Show Profile  Send kieblera5 an AOL message Send kieblera5 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless

Me too, Kieblera, so I added a hyphen to the title.



Thanks

And to edit... I don't know what happened to my post lol. I tried to make a downward graph using slashes and it screwed up..

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Bluegill
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USA
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Posted - 06/26/2009 :  11:16:08  Show Profile Send Bluegill a Private Message
I don't think were going to have a recovery. We’re having and will continue to have a "correction".

If you were to graph it, the economy will probably look like a saw tooth pattern heading down before it plateaus. This latest fake rally is one of those saw teeth, with each new low being lower than the previous. What will our status be when we hit that plateau?

We are literally a third world police state, complete with a kangaroo court system and with debts we can not pay off. You can't be an indebted third world banana republic and an Imperial power at the same time. The universe hates imbalances, and that correction has already commenced.

We still don't know for sure yet if the U.S. dollar is going to go Zimbabwe or not. If it does, throw that in the mix.

I have no idea how or when this will end. Will it be gradual and peaceful, or will it be abrupt and violent? All I do know is that things will be different from what we have now.

Like the Chinese proverb says, "May you live in interesting times"

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Gr33nday43
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Uzbekistan
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Posted - 06/26/2009 :  14:04:40  Show Profile  Send Gr33nday43 a Yahoo! Message Send Gr33nday43 a Private Message
I think I am one of the only people here that thinks there will actually be recovery...I'm predicting something similar to the Carter years in a few years, except it will be more serious. I think we'll have real positive GDP by the end of the year, however. It will be more like a v then growing slowly up then crashing back down. I'm probably wrong though. lol
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Country
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USA
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Posted - 06/28/2009 :  12:28:02  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
With a minimum of 600,000 jobs lost (doctored government statistic, real number is probably much higher) each month, the US economy is in trouble. However, I think much of the government bailout money will find its way into commodities and stock markets around the world. My prediction - the US economy will languish where it is now for a while longer (sort of an "L"); commodity and stock market values will rise because governments around the world increasing liquidity.

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Copper Catcher
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USA
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Posted - 06/28/2009 :  16:55:28  Show Profile Send Copper Catcher a Private Message
The "Second Crash" is on its way and unstoppable!

Here is why.......



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Coll3ctor
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USA
222 Posts

Posted - 06/28/2009 :  17:10:32  Show Profile Send Coll3ctor a Private Message
I'm thinking more along the way of a "M" type recovery


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Country
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USA
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Posted - 06/28/2009 :  17:15:50  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
Interesting graph. It looks like Option and Agency ARM resets will be the focus of the problem. Any real estate experts in the group that could shed light on this subject?

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Lemon Thrower
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USA
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Posted - 06/29/2009 :  08:55:37  Show Profile Send Lemon Thrower a Private Message
i will be the first to predict an "L" shaped recession, similar to the 1930's to 40's or 1990s Japan.

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Country
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USA
3121 Posts

Posted - 06/29/2009 :  09:37:58  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Lemon Thrower

i will be the first to predict an "L" shaped recession, similar to the 1930's to 40's or 1990s Japan.



Nope, you're the second person to predict and "L". I beat ya to it.

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