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Bluegill
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Neckro
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Posted - 06/23/2009 : 19:08:00
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| Interesting outcome. Shame that website records IP address' for those who post. |
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Ardent Listener
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 Posted - 06/23/2009 : 19:46:35
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Originally posted by Neckro
Interesting outcome. Shame that website records IP address' for those who post.
More than a shame IMO.......that stinks! |
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Posted - 06/23/2009 : 21:32:28
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Mr. Denningers views on the matter-
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So let's see if we can try to sort out what we're "learning":
•The bonds are declared fake by the Treasury, stating that there's only $100 million outstanding and obviously $134 billion have to be fake.
•Italy claims to have seized $800 million in real US Bonds in the last year.
•The last legitimate issue of paper US Treasuries (that is publicly admitted to) was in the early 1980s when bearer instruments were outlawed. All are now stated to be electronic (just a serial number and amount.)
•The two gentlemen are allegedly Japanese, and there are various stories about who they really are - from notorious counterfeiters who have served hard time for previous offenses to Japanese finance officials. Most notably, there has been no public statement from Italy about these gentlemen's actual identities.
•It appears from all reports that these two were detained but not arrested, with some reports that they were not only released but took the allegedly-fake instruments with them, even though Italian law precludes both your release and return of your fake instruments if you are caught with fake securities or currency.
This is stuff out of a Tom Clancy novel, and the longer it goes on and the more twisted the "explanations", the less sense it makes.
I find it incomprehensible that the Italian government released these two if they were actually caught in a massive counterfeiting operation with $134 billion in fake US Securities.
I find it equally incomprehensible that there was not an immediate indictment out of a US Prosecutor coming from such an event and a demand for extradition back to the United States.
And further, I find it equally incomprehensible that if the securities are in fact real, and Treasury is lying, that Italy would not impose the fine.
Only the latter scenario, however, covers what apparently has happened - the two "couriers", whoever they are, have been released and, according to some accounts, they took the allegedly "fake" instruments with them, and there has been no US indictment issued for counterfeiting the instruments.
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Dalsuh
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Posted - 06/24/2009 : 00:24:29
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They were probably counterfeited in North Korea like some people on the news are saying. Japan and North Korea have had a weird relation for a long time. There is even a North Korean community in Japan believe it or not.
Outrageous they were released. |
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