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Hirbonzig
Penny Collector Member


USA
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Posted - 06/05/2009 :  17:00:41  Show Profile Send Hirbonzig a Private Message
Is it worth buying silverplated flatware and serving platters I found at a yard sale at 25 cents per flatware item and $3.00 for each serving platter? What is the most common base metal under silverplated items and how much silver is there in silverplate-my guess is not much.

Sharkman
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USA
49 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2009 :  17:23:06  Show Profile Send Sharkman a Private Message
Well I am not an expert but if it looks really old than it may be Sheffield plate, which is silver plated copper. There is something else called German silver aka Nickel silver which is, you guessed it, made of nickel along with copper and zinc. There is a market for metalware regardless of content. Older and rarer pieces command more money of course. The key is identifying the pieces. This link may help or try google with any names or marks on your items.

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Kurr
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2906 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2009 :  19:21:48  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
I believe on standard silverplate for teasoons the rate is appr 1toz of AG per 144 pieces


The silver [is] mine, and the gold [is] mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Hag 2:8 [/b]
He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
Good reading: http://ecclesia.org/truth/government.html

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears

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magnasort
Penny Pincher Member



USA
174 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2009 :  20:33:03  Show Profile Send magnasort a Private Message
I think that standard plate is 2 troy oz/gross teaspoon, double plate is 4 troy oz/gross, triple is 6 oz/144 tsp, and quad plate is 8 tr.oz./144tsp.
Ive done the math and used stripping solutions, the silver recovery is usually a wash or net loss by the time the chems and your time are factored in. The base metals will usually go as misc scrap at $0.25/lb because the recyclers dont do volume in the materials.
Use a figure of approx. 3 sq inches per teaspoon to approximate the ag value on large platters, etc using surface area calcs...
I still buy all plated I find and hold for resale value which I think is at least triple what you would get for stripping and scrapping.

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Kurr
1000+ Penny Miser Member



2906 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2009 :  21:06:23  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
I heard the chinese in ancient days used to seal the silver in earthen jars for about 6 months, then got it out added salt and proccesed the silver chloride from there, which i heard can be done with dextrose and sodium hydroxide. Any thoughts on that as a process, I hadn't give it much thought till I read this earlier.


The silver [is] mine, and the gold [is] mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Hag 2:8 [/b]
He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
Good reading: http://ecclesia.org/truth/government.html

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears

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goldsilverpro
Penny Sorter Member



26 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2009 :  08:32:52  Show Profile Send goldsilverpro a Private Message
Magnasort,
Can you outline the method you used to strip the silver?

Kurr,
The silver chloride can be converted to silver metal using sodium hydroxide plus some type of sugar. It is common to use light Karo syrup. It takes about 13.3 ml of Karo syrup and 20 grams of sodium hydroxide for each troy ounce of silver.

You can also use sodium hydroxide alone, without the sugar. This produces the brown silver oxide, which is decomposed in the melt to produce silver metal.
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magnasort
Penny Pincher Member



USA
174 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2009 :  11:02:36  Show Profile Send magnasort a Private Message
The above method will work. I bought some SLS (silver leaching solution) from Ebay some time ago that is mixed with acid. Also an interesting discussion on goldrefiningforum.com about a 'replacement' method using only cupric sulfate, 5 day soak in a 5 gal bucket. Ive yet to try this but will in the next few weeks.

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magnasort
Penny Pincher Member



USA
174 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2009 :  11:04:31  Show Profile Send magnasort a Private Message
Link to the passive stripping/replacement system thread is
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Mike

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