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Kurr
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CoinHunter53562
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Posted - 05/29/2009 : 16:01:25
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| What sizes are you looking for? I have some 40 S&W, some 38 special, and a few miscellaneous ones I picked up from the range. I dont reload, and dont plan to at this time. What's the going rate for these anyway? |
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Delawhere Jack
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 Posted - 05/29/2009 : 18:57:56
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Focus on primers and powder first. Brass is worthless without either one of these. Brass is everywhere, though most people don't want to part with it. But, if you've got powder and primers, you've got bartering power.
You can cast bullets for most pistol cartridges with minimal equipment. You're more limited casting for rifles due to higher pressures and velocities where you really need a jacketed bullet.
Here's a company that offers cleaned and resized brass, and some new brass. I've bought .223 brass from them and was pleased with the quality and price.
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Kurr
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Delawhere Jack
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Posted - 05/29/2009 : 22:27:29
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Originally posted by Nickelless
Just curious, Jack, what's the storage life of primer?
Curious guestion... If they are kept in a cool, dry, stable temperature area, decades. I just got some 45 year old pistol primers from my dad, and tested 10 of them with no duds. Same thing for powder. Cool - Dry - Stable temps.
No way to say for sure besides priming a few cases and seeing if the work.
Just watch out for anything older than the mid 1950's, they may be mercuric primers, which are VERY corrosive to the bore.
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Delawhere Jack
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Posted - 05/29/2009 : 22:30:13
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Wisde words Brother Jack!
(Elvis voice), Thank you...thank you very much... |
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Nickelless
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Posted - 05/29/2009 : 23:47:23
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Originally posted by Delawhere Jack
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Originally posted by Nickelless
Just curious, Jack, what's the storage life of primer?
Curious guestion... If they are kept in a cool, dry, stable temperature area, decades. I just got some 45 year old pistol primers from my dad, and tested 10 of them with no duds. Same thing for powder. Cool - Dry - Stable temps.
No way to say for sure besides priming a few cases and seeing if the work.
Just watch out for anything older than the mid 1950's, they may be mercuric primers, which are VERY corrosive to the bore.
Any suggestions on where to buy primers cheap? |
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Delawhere Jack
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Posted - 05/30/2009 : 08:25:27
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Originally posted by Nickelless
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Originally posted by Delawhere Jack
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Originally posted by Nickelless
Just curious, Jack, what's the storage life of primer?
Curious guestion... If they are kept in a cool, dry, stable temperature area, decades. I just got some 45 year old pistol primers from my dad, and tested 10 of them with no duds. Same thing for powder. Cool - Dry - Stable temps.
No way to say for sure besides priming a few cases and seeing if the work.
Just watch out for anything older than the mid 1950's, they may be mercuric primers, which are VERY corrosive to the bore.
Any suggestions on where to buy primers cheap?
Nope... |
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c140cessna
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Posted - 05/30/2009 : 10:18:56
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There are no cheap primers to be found these days....you are 9 months late to the party.
In fact - there are just about no primers to be found.....might try your local gun stores.....online = forget it.....
You can get them for a super high price on You must be logged in to see this link. - kind of the Ebay of gun stuff. All selling for about 2X of normal prices....and I see no end in sight. Buy now or pay even more later.... |
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Nickelless
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wolvesdad
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Posted - 08/07/2009 : 08:54:26
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| Hoarding brass casings for free, sure, but I don't see the benefit of hoarding components that you have to pay for..... what is a breakdown of the price advantage. |
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wolvesdad
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Posted - 08/07/2009 : 08:55:26
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| THe price advantage I mean, between bought components and bought factory made cartridges. |
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AGgressive Metal
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Posted - 08/07/2009 : 11:06:41
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| Nickleless just FYI, I don't think .22 shells can be re-loaded. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. |
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jtm3
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Posted - 08/07/2009 : 11:06:55
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Well then, if primers are the most important ammo component to be hoarded, since they're nowhere to be found what would be the second most important? Casings?
I would say powder.
And flints.
If it really gets bad and there are no primers, powder will still be able to be used for muzzle loading type guns. Old style muskets- Can still be used for hunting and protection.
Also anyone know if it is possible to convert a modern rifle to a muzzle-loading flint-lock?
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Nickelless
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jtm3
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Posted - 08/07/2009 : 14:52:35
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Nickelless, I think it is because the rim gets totally crushed.
I save my shells anyway to melt down at a later date. |
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Delawhere Jack
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Posted - 08/08/2009 : 21:05:16
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In RE to the last few posts. No, rimfire shell cannot be reloaded. A modern firearm could conceivably be converted to blackpowder. In fact, the 30-06 was developed right when the switch from blackpowder to "smokeless" powders was underway. Hence the HUGE volume of the '06 cartridge. I'm fairly confident that you could find blackpowder loadings for '06 cartridge, but you'd lose a LOT of performance, and you'd still need primers.
As for going the the flintlock route, why not just get a compound bow?
Black powder however, can be manufactured at home, but I wouldn't advise that you try. My oldest brother did, and sparked it while mixing the components. The results were a basement full of smoke, a trip to the doctor, loss of eyebrows and eyelashes, and a week or so of putting burn baum on his face. He was VERY LUCKY not to lose an eye or suffer permanent disfigurement. 
OBTW, Nickelless, that sight precisionbrass.net, I've seen it, and I'd be embarassed to use the term "precision" when all I'm doing is polishing surplus brass and pawning it off. No sizing or sorting, if I recall, they're not even decapping the brass. If they let it go for a nickle a shell, then maybe they'd get my interest, otherwise I think they are preying on uninformed consumers.
(Being brutally honest is what Jack does, do not take offense).
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hobo finds
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Posted - 08/08/2009 : 21:50:34
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| A compound bow is a must for hunting. attracts no attention. But I would rather have a gun if someone who was attacking me. |
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