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Nickelless
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Posted - 05/14/2009 :  16:53:53  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
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Country
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Posted - 05/16/2009 :  13:24:50  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
Everyone in the USA should have health insurance. Too many people don't. Insurers crying that they would go out of business doesn't cut it with me. The Democratic administration of President Obama is going to take some of the profits away from these insurers; and why not, since these guys have been leeching off of sick Americans for far too long.

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fb101
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Posted - 05/16/2009 :  19:29:27  Show Profile Send fb101 a Private Message
Everyone in the USA can't have have health insurance unless the gov't supplies it comrade.
Or unless they want to work for it. HA! crackheads working for health insurance for their kids!
Like it was their responsibility!

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Nickelless
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Posted - 05/16/2009 :  21:10:30  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
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Originally posted by Country

Everyone in the USA should have health insurance. Too many people don't. Insurers crying that they would go out of business doesn't cut it with me. The Democratic administration of President Obama is going to take some of the profits away from these insurers; and why not, since these guys have been leeching off of sick Americans for far too long.


But there are too many unanswered questions to mandatory coverage: How many procedures SHOULD be offered? How much SHOULD they cost? What SHOULD (or shouldn't) be covered? This is a very slippery slope once you open this door. Our system might be lacking, but is there a better one? Canadians have universal coverage, but how long do they wait to see doctors in Canada? This is why so many Canadians come to the U.S. instead. The only thing that should be mandated in the U.S. is coverage for preventive treatments. That would do more to reduce health-care costs in this country than mandatory universal coverage for everything. An ounce of prevention...


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Country
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Posted - 05/16/2009 :  21:50:59  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
I believe that our health care system is a mess. Citizens of the USA should not be going broke because their health care coverage is absent or inadequate. Other countries in the developed world have made significant progress, why can't we? I think the source of the problem is that health care in the USA costs too much; the idea of raising profit margins on sick people should be reduced. While mandated health coverage may not be the ultimate answer, I think it will be welcomed by the millions of Americans who are unable to see a doctor because of poor health care coverage.

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fb101
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Posted - 05/16/2009 :  22:33:04  Show Profile Send fb101 a Private Message
Yeah, but Tom Daschle already said if they go there they'll have to start denying medication and treatment to older people.
I personally do not want the gov't to have the random power of life and death over us.
It's been tried before. Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba.
All those countries who have progressed so much farther than we have.

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Nickelless
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Posted - 05/16/2009 :  22:41:37  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by fb101

Yeah, but Tom Daschle already said if they go there they'll have to start denying medication and treatment to older people.
I personally do not want the gov't to have the random power of life and death over us.
It's been tried before. Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba.
All those countries who have progressed so much farther than we have.


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Kurr
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Posted - 05/16/2009 :  23:08:19  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
The sad fact of the matter is that a good 2/3rd of "medical costs" are not medical, but administrative and paper pushers to file the reams of paperwork requiered because of all the insurance now.

I say we should find a way do detach ourselves from the reason medical costs are so high. Then maybe it wouldn't cost so much to get hurt or ill.

*EDIT:
About 12 years ago I cut my hand. 6 stitches and a shot of litocain, 10 mins work, came to almost $670... 12 years ago.


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Edited by - Kurr on 05/16/2009 23:11:28
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fb101
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Posted - 05/17/2009 :  08:18:03  Show Profile Send fb101 a Private Message
Kurr, you are correct, but it's not always the one sided picture it seems like. I've had three of MY doctors leave PA in the last few years because of unreasonably high insurance costs. Those stem from unreasonably high awards given to frivolous lawsuits, like the lady who won a million dollars from a OB/GYN because she had a baby boy but wanted a girl. My doctors were paying 10K a month for malpractice insurance even though they had never been sued.
I think for a beginning we need some legal reform (but the ideas the republicans have suck and and the Dems have no ideas)

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