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Nickelless
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 Posted - 04/10/2009 : 08:54:58
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I think this is a natural outgrowth of the thread on urban hunting since, as many of you pointed out, using firearms to hunt in certain areas is verboten. So what tools or techniques besides firearms could be used to procure four-legged food if the need arises? This might also come in handy if you don't want anyone to be alerted by gunshots that you're in the area--especially in a SHTF situation.
So what'll it be? Crow with a crossbow? Deer with a spear? Sparrow with an arrow? (Do you like green eggs and ham?)
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Kurr
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Delawhere Jack
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Posted - 04/10/2009 : 18:22:35
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Google "Addio Africa", a movie made in the 1960's about the end of European colonialism in Africa. There are several scenes which show the locals taking down VERY LARGE game with nothing more than spears...lots and lots and lots of spears.
OBWT, it's all in Italian with no subtitles. The hunting scenes come around 40-45 minutes in, and they are quite gruesome.
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Frugi
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Posted - 04/11/2009 : 20:13:15
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| This is extreme, and ill advised if you are trying to not be seen. You can burn an open field of dry grass. Try to not start a forest fire, but rather just burn an acre or smaller. Any animal, bird and insect caught in the blaze will be fried just right by the time you find it. You could feed your self or several. This would only be feasible in a survival situation, and where you would want to be found, and rescued. |
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Frugi
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Kurr
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Nickelless
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RyanAKL
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Posted - 04/12/2009 : 22:10:48
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| well i shotgun hunt deer, but i have heard stories of guys waiting in there tree stands untill a deer walks right underneith and they jump on it with a knife, sounds like fun to me. |
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Kurr
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Posted - 04/13/2009 : 00:03:21
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I'd like to tape it if you try. I've seen deer inflict serious woumds on people. I still think traps and snares are best in keeping with the topic of the thread. Both are effective and produce, can be made relativly safe, cheaply and are humane.
You can carry a half dozen good, properly made, wire snares with locking nuts inside your hatband. Add to that a nice wide weave of 5 strand or so of paracord for a hat band and you have 8-12 more feet of line that if I remember right can hold up to 550 lbs. Makes a hatband about a inch and a half wide if you braid it right.
Plus the paracord is stranded so you can use that for fishing line, or more snares/shelter ties etc etc. A packet of small hooks and waxed or sealed matches can be sewn or tucked inside and you have a nice discreet survival hat.
Here is a link to a good video on trapping with foot hold traps:
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Frugi
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Posted - 04/13/2009 : 22:09:10
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Originally posted by Kurr
I still think traps and snares are best in keeping with the topic of the thread.
Are traps and snares the topic of this thread? I don't think so. To quote Nickeless I believe the topic of the thread is:
"So what tools or techniques besides firearms could be used to procure four-legged food if the need arises? This might also come in handy if you don't want anyone to be alerted by gunshots that you're in the area--especially in a SHTF situation.
So what'll it be? Crow with a crossbow? Deer with a spear? Sparrow with an arrow?"
with respect to:
"Let's keep ethics and practicality as our main concern, guys. We don't want to break laws or morals or come up with ideas that can't reasonably be done by your average person."
All ideas welcomed.
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Kurr
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Posted - 04/13/2009 : 22:46:09
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If I don't want anyone in the area to be alerted by gunshots, I don't want to take the chance on haveing to expose my position farther by chasing a wounded animal. Crossbows, bows, spears atlatls, boomerangs, what have you, leave open the chance that the fleeing wounded animal will attract attention or as I said, expose you to the people you want to avoid farther.
This is how I would think in a SHTF situation.
Also other people might try to take your kill from you if they see it stumbling and wounded, they will shoot it and claim it. I have seen this in the field in the last 5 years, and people ain't starving yet.
I said I think, given the parameters of "SHTF", and no firearms, with the presence of people I want to avoid for "reason x", traps and snares are best, not the only way, for procurring four legged food. I appologise if I was not clear. Broke necks, drowned animals, quiet, and they don't run. They stay where you staked em.
You can also be doing other things instead of focusing on just "the hunt" so you maximise your time efficiency. Just my opinion.
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RyanAKL
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Posted - 04/14/2009 : 08:18:55
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| If it's small like a rabit, bird or squirrel a home made sling shot would be very effective. Also has anyone ever made a potato gun? i think this would work great for larger animals, you can put a sharp object in the barrel instead of a potato, the only negative would be the noise. |
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Kurr
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redneck
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Posted - 04/14/2009 : 09:31:32
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Looks like PA ok'd Atlatls for deer hunting for anyone wanting to give that a go.
Always wanted to try one.Maybe I should try harder.
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misteroman
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Posted - 04/14/2009 : 09:38:15
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| I do pray it never gets to this as I'm not sure,even if Starving to death,I could ever kill an animal.People yes, so maybe I would just have to become a cannibal! |
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redneck
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Posted - 04/14/2009 : 13:20:17
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Yeah,I'm a life long member of PETA also.
Oh wait a minute.
Not the "People for Ethical Treatment of Animals".
The PETA group I belong to is the,
"People for Eating of Tasty Animals".
As far as cannibalism,lets hope it doesn't get that far.
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RyanAKL
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Posted - 04/14/2009 : 13:59:12
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Originally posted by misteroman
I do pray it never gets to this as I'm not sure,even if Starving to death,I could ever kill an animal.People yes, so maybe I would just have to become a cannibal!
Ill send you some of my deer sausage, maybe you will start hunting then. ;) |
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Kurr
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Frugi
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Posted - 04/15/2009 : 22:02:41
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I am vegan/raw foodist. I seldom eat any cooked food, and never eat any meat or fish.
I am an avid gun shooter/owner/trader/enthusiast. I will defend myself and my family and friends against danger, even if it means killing another, however hunting animals for myself is never an option I would consider. I will never eat flesh, human or animal.
Our human bodies do not require as much sustenance as you may think. I rarely eat more than once a day, and never feel hungry. I am very energetic. Our human bodies our amazing! |
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