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Nickelless
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Posted - 03/07/2009 :  04:54:12  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
Figuring as I am that most of us here are steadily stocking up on firearms, ammo and accessories, I thought this link showing the percentage of single-shot stops for various rounds might come in handy:

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Posted - 03/07/2009 :  06:49:13  Show Profile Send fb101 a Private Message
Nice, thanks!

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Delawhere Jack
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Posted - 03/07/2009 :  15:34:56  Show Profile Send Delawhere Jack a Private Message
It's good to know I've got rifles chambered for the #1 and #2 most effective cartridges.


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Nickelless
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Posted - 04/24/2009 :  02:58:11  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
Interesting tidbit, I just made my daily early-morning call to Wally World to see if they had any 9mm ammo in stock so I could show up at 8 a.m. when they can start selling it in Indiana (they're totally out--pretty much all the time now), and since I'm starting to shop for a shotgun as well, I asked what they had in multipacks of 12-gauge shells. Interestingly enough, a 100-pack of shells (don't remember the brand) was the same price as a 100-count box of 9mm rounds--$20.97. This will make it easier for me to work out my ammo budget for both my pistol and my long guns as well!


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NotABigDeal
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Posted - 04/24/2009 :  06:10:36  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message
Can't sell ammo until 8 a.m.? When is the cut-off time? I don't think we have that here, maybe though. Can't say if I've attempted a midnight ammo run. Maybe I'll give it a shot. Of course they would have to actually HAVE some ammo....

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p.s. Last time they had the 100 count boxes around here they were $19.96 or something.

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Kurr
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Posted - 04/24/2009 :  08:21:41  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
I disagree with the chart somewhat. A .223 is a varmit round, for like 30lb critters at a distance. SOOOO much more goes into stopping power than just what they have listed. What range? etc. Wheres the 30-06? 22-250? .17 HMR? .270? .243? .45 long colt?


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He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

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The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
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redneck
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Posted - 04/25/2009 :  08:11:24  Show Profile Send redneck a Private Message
quote:
SOOOO much more goes into stopping power than just what they have listed. What range? etc. Wheres the 30-06? 22-250? .17 HMR? .270? .243? .45 long colt?


Agreed.

Or how about the 300 Win. mag or Weatherby ?

There is definitely a whole range of different situations requiring different choices out there.

That is why one must always choose the correct tool for the right job...

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Nickelless
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Posted - 04/25/2009 :  16:20:58  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
Just wondering, on my way back from Kentucky last night I called five Walmarts along the route I usually take and all of them were out of handgun ammo except for two stores that had a few boxes each of .22 rounds. Should I buy those for barter anyway even though .22 is a little less firepower than I want in a gun?


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Kurr
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Posted - 04/25/2009 :  17:21:33  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
.22 is the perfect training round. You won't develop a "flinch" like you will shooting a .44 mag. Also, I dont know ANYONE that wants even 1 .22 round coming at their head or face. CCI Stingers or mini mags are AWSOME for the size.

Another plus to the lowly .22 is the low report. In a city or urban enviroment you pop off a 9mm or .357 and it WILL turn heads. .22 is often mistaken for firecrackers.


The silver [is] mine, and the gold [is] mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Hag 2:8 [/b]
He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
Good reading: http://ecclesia.org/truth/government.html

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears

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Delawhere Jack
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Posted - 04/25/2009 :  18:59:47  Show Profile Send Delawhere Jack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by redneck

quote:
SOOOO much more goes into stopping power than just what they have listed. What range? etc. Wheres the 30-06? 22-250? .17 HMR? .270? .243? .45 long colt?


Agreed.

Or how about the 300 Win. mag or Weatherby ?

There is definitely a whole range of different situations requiring different choices out there.

That is why one must always choose the correct tool for the right job...

>



Or just get a 104mm Howitzer....It probably has the same kick...


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CoinHunter53562
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Posted - 04/25/2009 :  19:03:43  Show Profile Send CoinHunter53562 a Private Message
All 3 Walmarts in town are out of handgun ammo except for 3 boxes of 25 auto. The Gander Mountain in town is running very low too. The guy working there told me they got in 60 cases of 9mm on Wednesday, and it was gone in 2 hours even with the 3 box per customer limit.

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Kurr
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Posted - 04/25/2009 :  19:31:05  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
my 2 area wal marts haven't had pistol ammo since DEC. The distribution site doesn't know when it will see any either.

Personally I think ole wally world is "attempting to help" the gun banners by just not restocking.
"See we support the 2nd. We still sell ammo, see there on the price tag on the empty shelf" JMHO.


The silver [is] mine, and the gold [is] mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Hag 2:8 [/b]
He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
Good reading: http://ecclesia.org/truth/government.html

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears

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Kurr
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Posted - 04/25/2009 :  19:46:53  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
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The silver [is] mine, and the gold [is] mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Hag 2:8 [/b]
He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
Good reading: http://ecclesia.org/truth/government.html

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears

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CoinHunter53562
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USA
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Posted - 04/25/2009 :  19:48:47  Show Profile Send CoinHunter53562 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kurr

my 2 area wal marts haven't had pistol ammo since DEC. The distribution site doesn't know when it will see any either.

Personally I think ole wally world is "attempting to help" the gun banners by just not restocking.
"See we support the 2nd. We still sell ammo, see there on the price tag on the empty shelf" JMHO.



I am seeing it at both Walmart, Gander Mountain, and the little firearms shop just outside of town. I hope it's temporary but just in case, I bought 350 rounds yesterday just to have some.

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Nickelless
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USA
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Posted - 04/25/2009 :  22:04:56  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
I got the last 8 50-count boxes of 9mm ammo at a local gun shop about three weeks ago but haven't had time to check anywhere buy Walmart since then (with no luck). Have any of you had better luck finding at least some handgun rounds at gun shops?


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Kurr
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Posted - 04/25/2009 :  23:42:03  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
I bought a box of PMC Bronze 230gr ball for 18.99 a few weeks ago, bet he has more still.


The silver [is] mine, and the gold [is] mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Hag 2:8 [/b]
He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
Good reading: http://ecclesia.org/truth/government.html

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears

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Nickelless
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USA
5580 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2009 :  03:51:05  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
I just saw this link for an online, interactive ballistics calculator:

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