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fb101
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 Posted - 01/05/2009 : 11:25:42
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Editor's note: A recent story in the Wall Street Journal profiled former Soviet KGB agent Igor Panarin's prediction that the United States will soon collapse. Vitaliy Katsenelson, who emigrated to the U.S. from Russia 17 years ago, offers a response.
DENVER, Colo. (MarketWatch) -- Dear Mr. Ex-KGB:
Desperate times call for desperate measures. No kidding. I understand why you took the collapse of the Soviet Union model added some wishful thinking and applied it to the United States. See Wall Street Journal article.
The Great U.S. of A is not the Soviet Union, this analogy doesn't work on this country. The Soviet Union was a collection of loosely assembled countries that shared little in common except ... well, actually with the exception of common borders I cannot think of a single thing that united them. Flag? Hymn? No, they were quick to disembark from the Soviet Union, turn the red flag into a doormat and erase the lyrics of the Soviet hymn from their memory.
Video: The end of an empire?
Geopolitical commentator John Batchelor explains to Simon Constable of Dow Jones Newswires why speculation about a U.S. breakup is wrong, but that America is still a country in decline. (Jan. 5)Ukrainians, Belorussians, and Russians had something in common, but Georgians, Armenians, Tajikistanis, and Uzbekistanis were always looked at by Russians as secondhand citizens. Estonians disliked Russia, but don't blame them, they did not join the Soviet Union voluntarily. The former soviet republics were happy to return to the pre-Soviet Union state.
Unlike the Soviet Union, in the U.S. we share similar values, goals and traditions that developed over more than two hundred years. Geographic state borders have little significance with the exception that in some states you are allowed to carry a concealed weapon; in some, until recently, you could not buy alcohol on Sunday. That is just plain wrong, but I still remained in Colorado and did not announce my allegiance to the California Republic as you would call it. In some states food is very spicy -- and that is alright. In some gambling and prostitution are legal -- and this is alright too. America is a melting pot. Sure we make fun of the New Yorkers' fast talk or the Texan's drawl. But tolerant we are.
Due to the ease of mobility of employment, we constantly migrate from state to state, thus our geographic loyalties don't go further than our Alma Matter's football team. Our geographic preference of habitation is a function of climate, employment, proximity of mother-in-law -- it has to be at least two hours away, by a very fast plane if possible -- and pure randomness. We have no allegiance to a specific state -- we are citizens of the United States. Culture doesn't divide us, like it did the Soviet Union, it unites us.
You discuss the return of Russian dominance. I don't know anyone who takes it seriously, except Russia, of course. Russia's recent dominance is a blip in time (sorry). Unlike the U.S., Russia has a very narrow economy that has mostly been driven by natural resources and was brought to life, for a short moment, by a global commodity bubble. If Russia did not have nuclear weapons and a large army, we'd spend as much time talking about it as an election in Mozambique.
Take high commodity prices away and you find ... well, Russia today: limited property rights, corruption, bribery, semi-dictatorship, and government control of the press. Newspapers and television are controlled by the government, journalists are dropping like flies.
No, Russia is not the United States. The United States has its problems, but these problems are not structural and time will heal them. Despite all of our problems, the U.S. is still the best economic and most stable political system, period. We have peacefully elected our president every four years for over two centuries. I bet you if every country in the world opened its borders to unlimited migrations in and out, you'd find the U.S. population balloon and Russia's shrink. People from all over the world want to live here.
Dear Mr. Ex-KGB, the Russian economy is crumbling. To divert attention from the internal problems (and more importantly from him) Mr. Putin is redirecting attention onto the "evil" United States. After all, we created the global economic crisis, sabotaged the oil market, and whatever else is wrong taking place in the world, we must have had a hand in it. Now it is even a common belief in Russia that the CIA was responsible for the September 11th attacks.
Anti-Americanism is on the rise in Russia. You made an America-fall-apart prediction public almost ten years ago, but it was only recently picked up by Russian (predominantly government-owned) media. You are a superstar in Russia -- you get two interviews a day. Unfortunately predictions that would have been taken as lunacy by most Russians in the past are now turned into wishful thinking. And wishful thinking has disappointed the Russian public since forever.
Sincerely,
Vitaliy Katsenelson, CFA
Central North-American Republic, formerly known as Colorado
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Lemon Thrower
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 Posted - 01/05/2009 : 12:03:38
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this guy may have his facts correct but his logic wrong.
just because the Soviet Union collapsed and this is the Russian's wishful thinking does not mean the U.S. won't also collapse.
Just because the U.S. is more integrated than the USSR was does not mean the U.S. might not collapse.
Not saying the U.S. will collapse, but that this guy's logic is wrong.
Many U.S. states are facing serious budget shortfall. In Atlanta they are closing fire stations and laying off civil servants. Just think about what they are doing for capital expenditures and pension contributions. When you get a bunch of folks who lose their pensions, you are going to have governors petitioning congress for a bailout. Not sure where congress is going to get the money to bail out the states. The failure to bail out the states will lead to seccessionist talk. |
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fb101
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Posted - 01/05/2009 : 17:09:07
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Actually he's referencing a Russian who claims the US will fall into civil war and fragment into separate countries, with the northern states joining Canada, the eastern joining Europe and the south and southwest joining Mexico.
Economically speaking you are quite correct. |
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