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Bluegill
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Delawhere Jack
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 Posted - 12/31/2008 : 16:03:13
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This is Amerika, 2008 (for a few more hours). Every problem is always and everywhere someone elses' fault. 
This victim mentality has got to go! It's become pervasive in every facet of American life. What do you think your grandfather would do if you whined that "it's not fair!"? Slap you upside the head would be my guess.
But grandpa's dead, and we've become a nation of panty-waisted whiners. Got a problem, go crying to Washington. Let the wages, benefits and retirement plans suck your company dry? Go cry to Washington.
And here's the kicker, we (taxpayers) are likely to end up having to pay the pensions for the auto workers if the automakers go belly up. What would your grandfather think if you told him you DESERVE to work for only 25 years, and then retire with full pension and benefits? It is possible, even likely that some of these folks will live longer on retirement than the time they spent working. Un F... believable!
On top of that, why in G-d's name does it take 5-6 years to develop a new model? The Gemini and Apollo missions combined took less time, and they PUT MEN ON THE MOON!!! Then Chevy says they're coming out with the Volt, which will cost $45,000 +!!!!WHO'S GOING TO BUY IT?!? And after about 100k miles, you need a new battery pack, estimated cost $7k-12k......
The big three have let everyone push them around. Gov, EPA, OSHA, UAW and at the same time, their exec's make outrageous salaries. The best bet would have been to let them go Ch 11, reorganize, and come back leaner and more competitive. Yes, that means that some people would lose their jobs. Yes, they might have to work 30 years instead of 25 for a full pension. But it would also mean that the companies would have a future, rather than just plodding on as zombie wards of the state.
BTW, I have two cars, a Jeep and a Chevy. I buy American every time I have the choice, which is not often lately.
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pencilvanian
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Posted - 12/31/2008 : 19:52:52
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Then Chevy says they're coming out with the Volt, which will cost $45,000 +!!!!WHO'S GOING TO BUY IT?!?
Sounds just like when the first VCRs were invented in the US-
they cost thousands and could only be bought by the rich, until the Japanese found a way to make them affordable and virtually cornered the market on the VCR market.
Seems like the idea 'make cars affordable for the common man' based on Henry Ford's thinking, seems to have gone the way of the Model T. |
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swusc
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Posted - 12/31/2008 : 22:16:23
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How much of that $45,000 is actual inputs and not recovering R&D?
That is like 10 cents a mile for the batteries. The power is going to cost around 2 cents a mile ( 1 kwh is 10cent and gets 5 miles). Excess wear on car... 10 cents a mile ($20,000/200,000 miles) for the extra cost
I am going to half the cost of the batteries since you only have to buy one extra set for the 2nd 100,000 miles.
So the cost of power is around 17 cents a mile. If you figure the average car gets 20 miles to the gallon, then gas needs to be over $3.40 for the car to be break even.
The total cost for 200,000 miles will be $59,000 or 29.5 cents a mile vs $42,000 or 21 cents a mile ($1.70 a gallon and $25k car).
It is close, but it is all front loaded and I bet the car isn't as roomy.
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`Everybody is ignorant. Only on different subjects.' Will Rogers
"This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the "hidden" confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists' antagonism toward the gold standard." Alan Greenspan, 1966. |
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