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pencilvanian
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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 Posted - 12/26/2006 : 18:29:23
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Monel, as I seem to understand it, is cupronickel composition of 30% copper and 70% nickel, though a mix of 65% nickel 45% copper is considered monel also.
I decided to try to figure out if one could Theoretically, create monel from Canadian & American nickels.
Of course, with the melting of nickels illegal, this is all theoretical, not actually done.
Just consider this under the heading "For Informational Purposes Only" and let it go at that.
1 American nickel
weight 5 grams
composition 25% nickel 75% copper
1.25 grams nickel, 3.75 grams copper
1 canandian nickel
weight 5 grams
composition 100% nickel
2 American nickels
total weight 10 grams
equal 2.5 grams nickel 7.5 grams copper
3 Canadian nickels
total weight 15 grams
composition 100% nickel
total weight of all 5 coins
25 grams
total nickel weight of all 5 coins
17.5 grams nickel
total copper wight for all 5 coins
7.5 grams copper
end result 70% nickel 30% copper
Again, we all know that melting 5 cent coins is illegal,
but we all know that laws tend to get changed as years go by.
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pencilvanian
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
2209 Posts |
Posted - 12/28/2006 : 20:23:24
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Oversight on my part
Canadian nickels were 99% pure nickel
from 1922-1942
and
1946-1951
and
1955-1983
per
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My apologies to one and all, especially forum members in Canada,
(whaddaya expect from a dullard American anyway?) |
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just carl
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
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Posted - 01/03/2007 : 11:21:07
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Nice observations as to statistics. However, here is something to ponder. The only way we normally know the composition of a coin is by the statistics we read in books and the author gets his material from the manufacturer of the product. With coins the manufacturer is the government. Not to slam our honest, truthfull, never fibbing government, but how do you know the metal content in coins is what you posted? The weight of a coin probably has been tested by Numismatist all over the world and any discripencies are allocated to wear or weight machine problems. If you know any chemist that have actually analyzed a coins contents and have noted the exact properties you mentioned, then all is well. However, I am a pessimist as to what our government publishes. Ever read 1984?
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pencilvanian
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
2209 Posts |
Posted - 01/03/2007 : 16:37:45
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There was a post elsewhere on this forum mentioning the fact that Canadian nickels have tested less than 999 pure, though the tester admitted that the test method used was inaccurate.
While we can now question the purity and accuracy of the nickel quantity of Canadian, and for that matter American nickels, both governments had no reason to lie or fabricate the content of their nickels in the past, especially with Canadian nickels from the 1922-1942 period.
It is only recently that nickel has become 'valuable', nickel as a metal wasn't even considered important enough to hoard or collect. I know for a fact that I had no interest in collecting a coin that wasn't gold or silver.
Nickel was only important during World War II for the war effort so it was removed from nickels, but after the war when nations switched from war production to peacetime production, nickel went back into our coins.
While we can wonder if the government would lie to us considering the content of nickels, back before 2004 or so, nobody cared about nickel, and since nobody cared about nickel, the governments had no reason to lie to the public about metal content. |
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