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Nickelless
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Posted - 10/08/2008 :  03:30:38  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message

Everyone better cover their ice.
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By JANE WARDELL, AP Business Writer
Tue Oct 7, 3:40 PM ET

This volcanic island near the Arctic Circle is on the brink of becoming the first "national bankruptcy" of the global financial meltdown.

Home to just 320,000 people on a territory the size of Kentucky, Iceland has formidable international reach because of an outsized banking sector that set out with Viking confidence to conquer swaths of the British economy — from fashion retailers to top soccer teams.

The strategy gave Icelanders one of the world's highest per capita incomes. But now they are watching helplessly as their economy implodes — their currency losing almost half its value, and their heavily exposed banks collapsing under the weight of debts incurred by lending in the boom times.

"Everything is closed. We couldn't sell our stock or take money from the bank," said Johann Sigurdsson as he left a branch of Landsbanki in downtown Reykjavik.

The government had earlier announced it had nationalized the bank under emergency laws enacted to deal with the crisis.

"We have been forced to take decisive action to save the country," Prime Minister Geir H. Haarde said of those sweeping new powers that allow the government to take over companies, limit the authority of boards, and call shareholder meetings.

A full-blown collapse of Iceland's financial system would send shock waves across Europe, given the heavy investment by Icelandic banks and companies across the continent.

One of Iceland's biggest companies, retailing investment group Baugur, owns or has stakes in dozens of major European retailers — including enough to make it the largest private company in Britain, where it owns a handful of stores such as the famous toy store Hamley's.

Kaupthing, Iceland's largest bank and one of those whose share trading was suspended last week to stop a huge sell-off, has also invested in European retail groups.

Thousands of Britons have accounts with Icesave, the online arm of Landsbanki that regulators said was likely to file for bankruptcy after it stopped permitting customers to withdraw money from their accounts Tuesday.

To try to wrest control of the spiraling situation, the government also loaned $680 million to Kaupthing to tide it over and said it was negotiating a $5.4 billion loan from Russia to shore up the nation's finances.

The speed of Iceland's downfall in the week since it announced it was nationalizing Glitnir bank, the country's third largest, caught many by surprise despite warnings that it was the "canary in the coal mine" of the global credit squeeze.

Famous for its cod fishing industry, geysers, moonscape and the Blue Lagoon, Iceland was the site of the Cold War showdown in which Bobby Fischer of the United States defeated Boris Spassky of the Soviet Union in 1972 for the world chess championship. Last year, Iceland won the U.N.'s "best country to live in" poll, with its residents deemed the most contented in the world.

No more.

Despite sunny skies Tuesday after three days of unseasonably cold weather, Reykjavik's mood remained grim — cafes were half-empty, real estate agents sat idle, and retailers reported few sales.

"I'm really starting to get worried now. Everything is bad news. I don't know what's happening," said retiree Helga Jonsdottir as she headed to a supermarket.

Icelanders are also beginning to question how a relative few were able to generate the disproportionate wealth — and associated debt — that Haarde has warned puts the entire country at risk of bankruptcy.

Iceland's reinvention from the poor cousin in Europe to one of the region's wealthiest countries dates to the deregulation of the banking industry and the creation of the domestic stock market in the mid-1990s.

Those free market reforms turned Iceland from a conservative, inward-looking country to one of a new generation of internationally educated young businessmen and women who were determined to give Iceland a modern profile far beyond its fishing base.

Entrepreneurs become its greatest export, as banks and companies marched across Europe and their acquisition wallets were filled by a stock market boom and a well-funded pension system. Among the purchases were the iconic Hamley's toy store and the West Ham soccer team.

Back home, the average family's wealth soared 45 percent in half a decade and gross domestic product rose at around 5 percent a year.

But the whole system was built on a shaky foundation of foreign debt.

The country's top four banks now hold foreign liabilities in excess of $100 billion, debts that dwarf Iceland's gross domestic product of $14 billion.

Those external liabilities mean the private sector has had great difficulty financing its debts, such as the more than $5.25 billion racked up by Kaupthing in five years to help fund British deals.

Iceland is unique "because the sheer size of its financial sector puts it in a vulnerable situation, and its currency has always been seen as a high risk and high yield," said Venla Sipila, a senior economist at Global Insight in London.

The krona is suffering in part from a withdrawal by a falloff in what are called carry trades — where investors borrow cheaply in a country with low rates, such as Japan, and invest in a country where returns, and often risks, are higher.

After watching the free-fall for several days, the Central Bank of Iceland stepped in Tuesday to fix the exchange rate of the currency at 175 — a level equal to 131 krona against the euro.

Haarde said he believed the measures had renewed confidence in the system. He also was critical of the lack of an Europe-wide response to the crisis, saying Iceland had been forced to adopt an "every-country-for-itself" mentality.

He acknowledged that Iceland's financial reputation was likely to suffer from both the crisis and the response despite strong fundamentals such as the fishing industry and clean and renewable energy resources.

As regular Icelanders begin to blame the government and market regulators, Haarde said the banks had been "victims of external circumstances."

Richard Portes of the London Business School agreed, noting the banks were well-capitalized and had not bought any of the toxic debt that has brought down banks elsewhere.

"I believe it is absolutely wrong to say these banks were reckless," said. "Quite the contrary. They were hugely unlucky."


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jadedragon
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5,400,000,000 Dollars borrowed from Russia divided by 320,000 people = $16,875 borrowed for every man, woman and child on the Island! On top of this problem:

"Iceland is one of the most indebted nations in the world, in terms not only of private sector (corporateand household) debt but also of gross and netnational debt. Public sector debt, on the other hand, isnot particularly large. The following is an attempt to evaluate how much Iceland deviates from the norm and identify possible reasons for its high level of private sector debt. The conceivable impact of debt accumulation on economic growth over the years to come is also discussed." You must be logged in to see this link.

In an interview with Forbes.com, Pierre Cailleteau, head of sovereign risk at Moody's, explains the significance of Iceland's turbulent situation and why it seems to be more exposed than the rest of Europe to a crisis in confidence. You must be logged in to see this link.

So Moody's thinks that Iceland will be ok - but what if they are wrong? This raises many questions:

How did the Fed/US Tres. Dept miss the opprotunity to bail Iceland out (they have already bailed out Investment Banks, Insurance Giants, Local Banks, Wall Street, Private Companies, and there is now talk of bailouts for various US states and cities. I thought the US was trying to corner the bailout game?

This article from a US reporter in Russia might help You must be logged in to see this link. many interesting quotes!

What if Iceland can't come up with $5.4 Billion to repay that Russian loan? Can Russia foreclose on a whole island country? Can Russia just incorporate Iceland as a new Satellite through foreclosure? "Cuba of the North" to quote the article linked above.

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jadedragon
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Posted - 10/08/2008 :  04:17:47  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
From a UK site - Oct 8/08

Chancellor Alistair Darling today promised Government help for the 200,000 worried UK savers who are with Icelandic internet bank Icesave, which was taken into receivership yesterday. Savers were left facing an anxious wait to find out whether they would get their money back after Icesave's parent company Landsbanki was nationalised by Iceland's government.

Mr Darling today said that he would be announcing measures to help British savers in the Commons later.
"I am very aware of the fact that Iceland has, sadly, chosen to default on its obligations here.
'We are pursuing Iceland and we will pursue it vigorously to make sure that we get the money due to us back," he told GMTV.
'But in the meantime I am going to be able to help those savers who would otherwise have to look to Iceland to get their money back. I am prepared to stand behind them and to stand behind the depositors.'
Customers with Icesave first learnt there was something amiss when the group stopped people withdrawing money from their internet accounts after Landsbanki was placed into receivership yesterday morning.
A statement on Icesave's website said: "We are not currently processing any deposits or any withdrawal requests through our Icesave internet accounts."
Landsbanki's other UK business Heritable Bank has also stopped taking deposits or allowing consumer to make withdrawals.

The move was orchestrated by Iceland's government after it gained emergency powers to save its collapsing economy.
Yesterday British customers of Icesave, which launched here as an internet-only bank in 2006, revealed how a lifetime's scrimping may have been destroyed by the implosion of Iceland's economy.

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horgad
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Posted - 10/08/2008 :  07:58:52  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
Practically overnight the currency collapsed and the store shelves were stripped of all of their food!

It amazes my how quickly the final collapse of a FIAT currency can happen. It is like somebody took one too many nails out of a house and the whole thing fell at once!



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On one of the bailout threads on Daily Kos (I forget which), there was a running bet on which country would be the first to go socialist in the wake of the credit implosion. Iceland was at the top of the list, precisely for this reason.

Would switching to the euro do them any good at this point? Or would the EU even let that happen?

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jadedragon
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Posted - 10/08/2008 :  12:40:57  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
I read a little about the concept of Iceland switching to the Euro. The problem is that going to the Euro is a political decision, generally takes several years to set up, requires many changes in government regulations and meeting certian economic standards. Iceland can't get there from here very easily or quickly.

They did just peg the Iceland Currency to (Euro I think, could have been the Pound) but with only $3 Billion in foreign reserves this is seen by some experts to be a hollow and unsustainable move.

What I can't figure out is this:

Iceland has not made the US TV news - yet its going to hell in a handbasket right now. The markets around the world are falling like crazy, yet get a passing mention. What is on Headline News? "3 people injured in Yosemete rockslide, some mayor runs after a purse snacker, and everyone thinks their guy won last nights debate (duh)" We fiddle as Rome burns!

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Nickelless
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Posted - 10/08/2008 :  12:59:09  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
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Originally posted by horgad

Practically overnight the currency collapsed and the store shelves were stripped of all of their food!




Got any links on this, Horgad? I'd certainly like to know more.


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Posted - 10/08/2008 :  13:04:40  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
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Excellant advice for Presidents and Central Bankers (and help the rest of us understand defaults)

Debatable evidence of hoarding and food shortages:
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An older article:

Nordlenska, a meat packing company in northern Iceland, says supplies are dangerously low and it's coming at a bad time: Iceland is currently celebrating a four-week long Viking festival known as "Thorria," when folks eat lots of testicles.

Nordlenska's assistant sales manager Gunnar Nielsson claims the testicles, also known as "minister's sausage," are rising in popularity because of a nostalgic return to foods that Icelanders' grandparents ate.

He says even kindergarten students are nuts for the balls and enjoy pickling them in a salty brine and eating them with toothpicks.

Fried ram's testicles are also becoming a hit with Italian-Americans but Nielsson doesn't know if his company can keep up with the demand since, "rams only have two testicles."

Here is a very good English blog from Iceland You must be logged in to see this link.

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horgad
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Posted - 10/08/2008 :  13:19:10  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless

quote:
Originally posted by horgad

Practically overnight the currency collapsed and the store shelves were stripped of all of their food!




Got any links on this, Horgad? I'd certainly like to know more.



I have only seen the grocery shortage mentioned in passing:


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"Amid reports of panic buying at Icelandic foodstores Iceland's central bank governor David Oddsson said the central bank had enough reserves to cover the cost of all imports for eight to nine months, a stronger buffer than it had had in the past"





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Posted - 10/12/2008 :  00:41:33  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
Just saw a news piece on CTV about Iceland. They said the three banks have been nationalized, currency collapsed, and stock exchanged closed for days. The whole story was interviewing people in bars on Thursday night. Various uniformed comments mostly- but one guy said that the Russians have a financial system independant of the US Real Esate crisis and they want to help, so great. Another said that everyone has these problems, but it will never happen again (what was he drinking!). One guy said that Iceland has done well investing in other countries, and that this problem would subside.

The bar owner said he has not been able to get money from the credit card companies for his sales for a week. (that's got to hurt!) A beer importer said he has done very well importing expensive brands to sell to the neuvo rich, but he will be switching to cheaper brands - and figures he is going to be ok.

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