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jadedragon
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Canada
3788 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2008 :  19:59:42  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
The debate just started. Let's see what you guys think.

And for you Ron Paul fans - check this out:
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“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” – George Bernard Shaw.
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natsb88
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USA
1850 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2008 :  20:06:57  Show Profile Send natsb88 a Private Message
9:06
I think McCain needs to stop gloating about suspending his campaign to return to Washington to vote on the bailout package. He spent 22 hours making other stops on his way back. Pure publicity stunt, IMHO, and makes him seem really artificial.

9:17
When asked if the economy will get worse before it gets better, Obama says no. McCain says maybe, but it will get better if the government gets it hands in deeper. I don't care for either answer

9:23
I'm tired of hearing McCain say "pork barrel" and "my friends" He also says we need to stop sending money overseas, but he wants to continue the war

I've also noticed neither candidate knows how to count to one minute...

9:25
McCain says build a whole bunch of nuclear power plants

9:26
Obama says independence from foreign oil within 10 years
Then he says we need government healthcare

9:32
Obama's energy ideas sound good, but where does all this money come from? He also wants to get youth more involved with the country...sounds too much like mandatory government service to me.

9:39
Obama says taxes will go down. Hard to believe when he wants the government to take care of everybody cradle to grave...

Nate
The Copper Cave


Edited by - natsb88 on 10/07/2008 20:33:27
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Delawhere Jack
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1680 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2008 :  20:22:40  Show Profile Send Delawhere Jack a Private Message
Baaaaaah....baaaaaah....baaaaaah.....

"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty." Thomas Jefferson

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jadedragon
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Canada
3788 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2008 :  20:42:08  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
Environment - Obama thinks that we can create 5 million new energy jobs - just like "the computer" was invented by a bunch of scientist who were trying to figure out how to communicate for defense purposes. Uhhh I think he is talking about "the internet".

“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” – George Bernard Shaw.
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natsb88
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USA
1850 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2008 :  20:45:48  Show Profile Send natsb88 a Private Message
I'm over on the PickensPlan chat now...

Nate
The Copper Cave

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jadedragon
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Canada
3788 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2008 :  20:49:38  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
McCain hits it exactly - Government will do this, Government will do that on Healthcare on the Obama plan. You get fined if you don't do this or that. Don't understand the hair transplant remark at all.

“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” – George Bernard Shaw.
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natsb88
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USA
1850 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2008 :  20:58:39  Show Profile Send natsb88 a Private Message
Obama is almost rude when it comes to time constraints on debate points.

McCain is back to fear-mongering with terrorist talk.

Nate
The Copper Cave

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jadedragon
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Canada
3788 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2008 :  21:18:35  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
I think they picked the audiance specifically not to distract from the dabaters. There is no eye candy anywhere to be seen (unless you are like Obama girl that is, then he's sitting on the left)!

Obama just threw the whole time off by demanding a followup on Pakistan. What the heck - "McCain sang bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" Never heard that one before!

“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” – George Bernard Shaw.
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natsb88
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USA
1850 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2008 :  21:26:47  Show Profile Send natsb88 a Private Message
McCain spent over a minute answering a question that was supposed to be one word - yes or no.

The way McCain talks about policing the world is truly frightening.

I agree with Obama saying we should talk to our enemies. The whole intimidation / cutting off communication ideology is arrogant and counterproductive. Too bad I disagree with most of everything else Obama believes in...

Nate
The Copper Cave

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jadedragon
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Canada
3788 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2008 :  21:36:14  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
McCain's concept of buying up mortgages and renegotiating them is a new. Interesting answers about picking the next Tresurey secretary. I would not have pointed out that Warren Buffett supports Obama (and it takes my view of Buffett down a little).

“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” – George Bernard Shaw.
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swusc
Penny Hoarding Member

USA
553 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2008 :  21:41:32  Show Profile Send swusc a Private Message
Buffett is liberal. He doesn't make much money a year. I am sure Berkshire Hathaway pays a ton of taxes, but he never seems to count that as him paying it.

-SWUSC

`Everybody is ignorant. Only on different subjects.' Will Rogers

"This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the "hidden" confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists' antagonism toward the gold standard." Alan Greenspan, 1966.
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Delawhere Jack
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1680 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2008 :  21:47:03  Show Profile Send Delawhere Jack a Private Message
I guess it (the debate) is over by now. Glad I didn't waste ninety minutes of my life watching it baaaaaah...Oh, exsqueeze me, it really is involuntary.

Herbert Hoover '08!

"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty." Thomas Jefferson

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Delawhere Jack
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1680 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2008 :  21:51:26  Show Profile Send Delawhere Jack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by swusc

Buffett is liberal. He doesn't make much money a year. I am sure Berkshire Hathaway pays a ton of taxes, but he never seems to count that as him paying it.

-SWUSC



Liberal or conservative mean nothing anymore. Goldman Sachs owns the government and the media, and you will do as you are told until the rights to you are sold... which I think that may have already occurred.

"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty." Thomas Jefferson


Edited by - Delawhere Jack on 10/07/2008 21:52:44
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Nickelless
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USA
5580 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2008 :  03:44:02  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by legacypac

I think they picked the audiance specifically not to distract from the dabaters. There is no eye candy anywhere to be seen (unless you are like Obama girl that is, then he's sitting on the left)!

Was I just seeing things, or did one guy in the audience look like William Shatner??

All seriousness aside, I thought Obama was on the defensive pretty much the entire debate. And I think that while McCain didn't exactly eat Obama's lunch, he at least stole half of Obama's sandwich. I think McCain's ideas about what he wants to do if elected are much more clearly defined AND workable than Obama's. I think Obama's claim that we can't address energy and healthcare and Social Security/Medicare all at the same time was a copout. Our country has shown before that we can do huge things (think World War II and landing on the moon) IF we have the collective will and spirit of cooperation AND (most importantly) if Congress has big enough gonads to do what NEEDS to be done, not just what is politically expedient. I believe we can pull off all three of the big issues in this next administration IF the country will pull together and demand that it get done. I can't say that I have as much faith in politicians at any level to follow through with these things, but I'm hoping that the populace as a whole is ticked off enough at what HASN'T happened and that they will really hold elected officials' feet to the fire until they actually do the jobs they have been elected to do.


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