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JerrySpringer
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Posted - 09/05/2008 :  23:56:09  Show Profile Send JerrySpringer a Private Message
Got my first wild 1943 steel penny tonight. Not a bad box of pennies. There were ~ 135 wheat pennies. Found a poor man's 1955 double die and a very shiny near AU 1945 penny. Oldest penny was a 1926. Most of the wheats were 1940's and 1950's of course. This is from the same bank that for a few weeks now has been yielding boxes with un-random allocations of wheats and older Canadians. I have another box to sort from them. This is getting interesting.

Nickelless
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Posted - 09/06/2008 :  00:07:24  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
OK JS, I bite. What's a poor man's 1955 double die?


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TXTim
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Posted - 09/06/2008 :  08:13:15  Show Profile Send TXTim a Private Message
Unreal wheat numbers!
Way to go!

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horgad
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Posted - 09/06/2008 :  09:30:02  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless

OK JS, I bite. What's a poor man's 1955 double die?



There are several types of mint errors that cause doubled images:

1. double die - The die (hammer that hits the coin) itself (not the coin) was struck twice in a way that creates two images when a coin is hit

2. double strike - After getting struck, the coin fails to fully eject and is whacked again

3. mechanical doubling, also called machine doubling or strike doubling - The doubled image results from mechanical issues during the striking of the coin, such as the coin shifting during striking, or the die itself being jarred out of position as a result of vibration or improper coin press maintenance.

4. die wear doubling - The die wears down in a specific way that causes the numbers in the date to expand and look slightly blurry or doubled. 1955 poor man's double die (not a true double die) is a prime example.

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JerrySpringer
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Posted - 09/06/2008 :  10:52:15  Show Profile Send JerrySpringer a Private Message
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4. die wear doubling - The die wears down in a specific way that causes the numbers in the date to expand and look slightly blurry or doubled. 1955 poor man's double die (not a true double die) is a prime example.


Yes, that is the one I found and a better example of it to boot. The rightmost '5' of 1955 date is smeared nicely. I have collected maybe a dozen poor man 1955 double dies now. Considering that 1955 wheaties are about as random as any other 1950's or 1940's wheaties, I think there must be many circulating. In percentages, maybe 10% of the 1955 pennies I find are a poor man's double die.

Thank you TXTim for the comment. It is very possible that people have been emptying their piggy banks lately to cover the escalated costs of things. The bank teller made such an indication to me the other day. His branch is across the street from a vibrant college too, so maybe he gets alot students who bring in their couch findings for cash. Anyway, the String wrapped rolls have been hot,hot from that branch. I have gone on before about this location and my theory is that certain branches are on a route from the Brinks truck that may pick up from specific coin depots. I do not know. I try to piece together a food-chain/hierarchy of where the concentrated copper and wheaties are coming from. Truth is, there may be a huge hopper of pennies from a major penny capitulation ( a hoarder that needs the $$ and can not hold on to the coins anymore) and I am seeing the reverse tributary run off. Anyway, this bank and its branches have been very consistent with their penny results. Unlike the other bank that I dropped due to too many skunk boxes.

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