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Posted - 09/02/2008 :  22:02:31  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
Numismatics wise, what year should be the latest year where I keep them for collecting? I was thinking 1964 and lower but I dont know?

Going through spare change, what are the years that US made nickels out of nickel and that I should keep?

If someone could answer both, that'd be great.

jadedragon
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Canada
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Posted - 09/02/2008 :  22:48:33  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
I sort Canadian Nickels as my #1 target. Therefore I've sorted boxes of Jeffs out of circulation.

Question 1: This is a personal thing, but I save pre-1964 Jeffs just because they are old and hard to find in circulation. Generally the older, and the better condition, the more valuable. Don't expect to get rich on old nickels though. It's more for your own collecting fun. If I remember correctly, in 1964 the Mint went nickel crazy and minted A LOT of nickels. Pretty sure it had to do with the change shortage the developed when Silver Quarters and Dimes were being sucked out of circulation, but I'm too young to remember that period.

Question 2: All Jeffs (except for the 35% Silver War Nickels) are made from CuNi = CoproNickel = 75%Copper/25%Nickel mix which is a very common coin alloy in the world. No Jeffs are made only from Nickel. All Jeffs are worth a little more then Melt Value, and some people here save all Jeffs.

Silver War Nickels have a very big mint mark (S, P, D) above the building. They also generally "dirty" colored when found in the wild. Check ebay for some photos of what to look for. They are worth maybe 75 cents each - check coinflation for current melt value. My best estimate is that silver war nicks are found about 1 per box of $100 worth on average, but some here hunt them regularly and can answer that better.

The other nickels that are worth much more then face are All Canadian Nickels up to and including 1981 because they are made from .999 Nickel. I sell these in bulk at 10 cents each. There are a few non-Ni exceptions that have collector value, namely war nickels made from plated steel (lighter colored and a little blue) and a bronze colored "tombec" war nickel. These were made during WWI, WWII and the Korean War to save nickel for armour plating. Of course the really old ones have more collector value then melt value.

Hope that helps.

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Bluegill
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USA
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Posted - 09/03/2008 :  11:22:32  Show Profile Send Bluegill a Private Message
Long term average, 1 war nickel per box is about right. It can be spotty though. I have gone from 4 in a single Brinks box to getting skunked in a 5 box sort and everything in between.

Canadian .999 average about 2 per box long term. My area gets a lot of Canadians overall so that could be a factor in those numbers.

I do not keep any of he early Jeffersons unless it is a really nice speciman, then it goes in my Whitman folder. They are plentiful in my area so I can get them easy enough if the need should arise.

Good luck.


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aboxaweek
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USA
326 Posts

Posted - 09/03/2008 :  17:00:17  Show Profile Send aboxaweek a Private Message
dont bother with 1964 WWWWaYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY to many of them



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fb101
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USA
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Posted - 09/03/2008 :  20:16:11  Show Profile Send fb101 a Private Message
so I shouldn't bother listing those two $100 boxes of 1964 nickels on ebay?


Edited by - fb101 on 09/03/2008 20:16:44
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Posted - 09/05/2008 :  08:12:53  Show Profile Send n/a a Private Message
Well, you could list them and just strategically omit the mintage numbers...

...I kid.

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aboxaweek
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USA
326 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  15:40:41  Show Profile Send aboxaweek a Private Message
i'm just saying that there are so many of them they would take up most of the space,

ARE THEY ALL PULLED OUT FROM CIRCULATION?



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jadedragon
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Canada
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Posted - 09/05/2008 :  16:07:28  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by aboxaweek

i'm just saying that there are so many of them they would take up most of the space,

ARE THEY ALL PULLED OUT FROM CIRCULATION



I find lots of 1964 US Jeffs in Canada. Perhaps you could try this line:

"The 1964 Nickel is one of the most popular coins ever made by the US mint and a must have in every coin collection. A fine example of one of the longest running coin series in the world.

This is your chance to own your own special piece of history - coins that have served the American Public for over two generations! These little pieces of history commemorate Thomas Jefferson, early US President, American Patriot, slave emancipator, and the namesake of not one, but two proposed western states.

Jefferson was a true pioneer, doing pioneer work on racial integration, hundreds of years before it was a popular thing to do. It is not unreasonable to say that Jefferson's early work on racial integration helped open the way for Presidential hopeful Barak Obama to run for President in 2008.

Further these nickels are backed by the full power of the world's only superpower - the great United States of America! They also represent a potentially lucretive investment because they contain a full 5 gram mix of semi-precious metals that many think will appreciate nicely over the next few years."

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just carl
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USA
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Posted - 09/14/2008 :  11:30:41  Show Profile Send just carl a Private Message
As to Nickels for Numismatic values, almost no Jefferson Nickels are really a big thing. Out of all the more modern coins, those are the least popular at coin shows, coin stores, coin clubs. Not sure why but they are just not popular. Even the overpriced listings in the Red Book have little value for almost any of them unless in MS grades. The 1964 was almost a joke in it's time. Between the P and D mints, there was well over 2 billion 8 hundred million made. I used to have fun in the late 60 telling people if they had at least two nickels in their pockets, one would be a 1964. I was right most of the time.
In reality for just Numismatic purposes I would suggest for Jefferson Nickels, collect them all. No real decent reason to have only a partial collection of anything Numismatically. They are easy to find, don't cost a lot, all are easily available, a completed album looks impressive too. A whitman or Dansco Album where you can see both sides of the coins is really great if completed and no empty slots to show off with and with Jefferson Nickels you could do just that.
Just remember that you said Numismatic purposes and not a monitary gain collection. As I said for some reason the Jefferson Nickel is just not a great monitary investment coin but as a completed collection, they are impressive.

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just carl
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USA
601 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2008 :  11:40:39  Show Profile Send just carl a Private Message
Oh, I forgot about the amount of Nickel in a Nickel.
The Liberty Head Nickel was made using 75% Copper and 25% Nickel from 1883 to 1913.
The Indian Head Nickel was make using 75% Copper and 25% Nickel from 1913 to 1938.
The Jefferson Nickel was started witht 75% Copper and 25% Nickel in 1938. Changed to 56% Copper, 35% Silver and the rest Manganese for some of 1942 and all of 1943 to 45.
In 1946 to present, the Jefferson Nickel was returned to the 75% Copper, 25% Nickel.
Oddly enough there has never been a Nickel made of either all Nickel or even a mamority Nickel.

Carl
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kavajava
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USA
490 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2008 :  12:58:04  Show Profile Send kavajava a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by legacypac

quote:
Originally posted by aboxaweek

i'm just saying that there are so many of them they would take up most of the space,

ARE THEY ALL PULLED OUT FROM CIRCULATION



I find lots of 1964 US Jeffs in Canada. Perhaps you could try this line:

"The 1964 Nickel is one of the most popular coins ever made by the US mint and a must have in every coin collection. A fine example of one of the longest running coin series in the world.

This is your chance to own your own special piece of history - coins that have served the American Public for over two generations! These little pieces of history commemorate Thomas Jefferson, early US President, American Patriot, slave emancipator, and the namesake of not one, but two proposed western states.

Jefferson was a true pioneer, doing pioneer work on racial integration, hundreds of years before it was a popular thing to do. It is not unreasonable to say that Jefferson's early work on racial integration helped open the way for Presidential hopeful Barak Obama to run for President in 2008.

Further these nickels are backed by the full power of the world's only superpower - the great United States of America! They also represent a potentially lucretive investment because they contain a full 5 gram mix of semi-precious metals that many think will appreciate nicely over the next few years."
legacypac--are you in marketing/advertising? If not you should be
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 09/14/2008 :  13:41:26  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
I think most folks that keep old Jeffs save the Pre-60 ones. They can sometimes bring a small premium in larger lots.. something like 7 cents each.

There are no "nickel" US nickels. Even the early shield nickels were made out of copper-nickle.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.
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jadedragon
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Canada
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Posted - 09/14/2008 :  14:12:14  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
There is pretty good evidence that Pres. Jeff had kids with his favorate slaves-hence the whole racial integration point.

In real life, I am a business person which means I deal with marketing and advertising all the time. I just play with coins for fun and profit. I also enjoy writing.

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fb101
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USA
2856 Posts

Posted - 09/14/2008 :  16:24:47  Show Profile Send fb101 a Private Message
quote:

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Further these nickels are backed by the full power of the world's only superpower - the great United States of America! They also represent a potentially lucretive investment because they contain a full 5 gram mix of semi-precious metals that many think will appreciate nicely over the next few years."



Great! except for that last paragraph. By the time the auction is over we may be a third world country.

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DesertTumbleweed402
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USA
196 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2008 :  09:34:19  Show Profile Send DesertTumbleweed402 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by legacypac

quote:
Originally posted by aboxaweek

i'm just saying that there are so many of them they would take up most of the space,

ARE THEY ALL PULLED OUT FROM CIRCULATION



I find lots of 1964 US Jeffs in Canada. Perhaps you could try this line:

"The 1964 Nickel is one of the most popular coins ever made by the US mint and a must have in every coin collection. A fine example of one of the longest running coin series in the world.

This is your chance to own your own special piece of history - coins that have served the American Public for over two generations! These little pieces of history commemorate Thomas Jefferson, early US President, American Patriot, slave emancipator, and the namesake of not one, but two proposed western states.

Jefferson was a true pioneer, doing pioneer work on racial integration, hundreds of years before it was a popular thing to do. It is not unreasonable to say that Jefferson's early work on racial integration helped open the way for Presidential hopeful Barak Obama to run for President in 2008.

Further these nickels are backed by the full power of the world's only superpower - the great United States of America! They also represent a potentially lucretive investment because they contain a full 5 gram mix of semi-precious metals that many think will appreciate nicely over the next few years."




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