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knibloe
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USA
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Posted - 07/13/2008 :  20:20:18  Show Profile Send knibloe a Private Message
When I was hand sorting, I set aside the copper canadians. Now that I have the Ryedale, I visually sort the coppers for wheats. Is there a reason to pull out the canadians?

kavajava
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USA
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Posted - 07/14/2008 :  01:53:35  Show Profile Send kavajava a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by knibloe

Is there a reason to pull out the canadians?

They are 98% copper instead of 95%.
Some people like them more.
I think they usually sell for more on eBay.
Some people like them less.

Edited by - kavajava on 07/14/2008 01:54:37
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jadedragon
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Canada
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Posted - 07/14/2008 :  02:16:22  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
They melt better.

Seriously, after spending an evening handsorting "mixed copper" as I call it, I'm really wondering why bother. I'm pulling very few wheats (all late model) and even less kings, and a handful of US coins that are mixed in with the 3 weights of Canadian copper pennies. I'm thinking these pennies are all going to melt together just fine someday.

What do others think? Is there value in sorting out the three weights of Canadian Cu pennies?

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Edited by - jadedragon on 07/14/2008 02:23:09
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Bluegill
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USA
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Posted - 07/14/2008 :  07:05:36  Show Profile Send Bluegill a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by legacypac

They melt better.

Seriously, after spending an evening handsorting "mixed copper" as I call it, I'm really wondering why bother. I'm pulling very few wheats (all late model) and even less kings, and a handful of US coins that are mixed in with the 3 weights of Canadian copper pennies. I'm thinking these pennies are all going to melt together just fine someday.

What do others think? Is there value in sorting out the three weights of Canadian Cu pennies?



I think it depends.

If the melt ban gets lifted and we all sell our pennies buy the pound to whoever, then no, mix them all together.

If and we're bartering with coins for there metal content, I would think one would want them seperate. A 2.5 gram and a 3.24 gram are going to have different buying power. Especially if the price of copper (and other base and PM) keeps going up.

And yes, I do like Canadian coins.


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horgad
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USA
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Posted - 07/14/2008 :  07:33:10  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
The current market on E-Bay is for pure copper US cents. If you leave any Canadians or zincs in there, you will get less for your lots. My guess is this will remain true in the years ahead.

On the other hand, when/if the scrap market for pennies develops it will make no difference if you leave the Canadians in.

Also if one could manage to get enough copper Canadians to get a scrapper interested, you could legally sell them today in the US for a little less than $3.00 a pound.
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jadedragon
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Canada
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Posted - 07/14/2008 :  13:55:18  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by horgad

The current market on E-Bay is for pure copper US cents. If you leave any Canadians or zincs in there, you will get less for your lots. My guess is this will remain true in the years ahead.

On the other hand, when/if the scrap market for pennies develops it will make no difference if you leave the Canadians in.

Also if one could manage to get enough copper Canadians to get a scrapper interested, you could legally sell them today in the US for a little less than $3.00 a pound.



Yes, bannish those zincs!
I'd think that a melter would not mind a few higher Cu% mixed in. I can see on ebay the simplicity of "all memorials" or "all wheats"
How many pounds to get a scraper interested?

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Flbandit
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USA
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Posted - 07/14/2008 :  17:50:38  Show Profile Send Flbandit a Private Message
Are Kings worth a premium? I find a few now and then.

Are you throwing that out?
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knibloe
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USA
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Posted - 07/14/2008 :  21:04:10  Show Profile Send knibloe a Private Message
I have about 15 pounds of canadians set aside from hand sorting. Maybe I will go see a scrapper.
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jadedragon
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Canada
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Posted - 07/15/2008 :  12:43:03  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Flbandit

Are Kings worth a premium? I find a few now and then.



Should have some collector value. I posted a bunch of detailed info from a coin book a couple weeks back. I have not personally tested the market yet.

I'd be curious what anyone finds out visiting a scraper with Canadian pennies in the US. Please report here.

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