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Kurr
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Posted - 06/21/2008 :  09:53:08  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
Yesterday I bought some coins from china that say szechuen Province 7mace and 2 candareens, and a kirin province of the same weight and a Silver dollar portraying Yuan Shikai.

All coins are larger coins, each weighing app 20 grams. I do believe them to be fake as the originals were supposed to be 26grams. I did read that on the fakes they used a slightly less pure silver and they were light, as mine are, 6 grams less.

My question is I was offered these at $2 a piece and cant find if there is enough silver in them to buy , if nothing else, for refining.

Various provinces and all, I am not familiar with chinese coins. They did say the chinese folks that come in buy them and said they were"chinese silver", and one guy the day before bout 170$ worth.


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He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

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Copper Catcher
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USA
2092 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2008 :  10:00:28  Show Profile Send Copper Catcher a Private Message
Most of those are not real silver. I bet if you slap a magnet to it, you might find it sticks! Not a good sign! :-)

Edited by - Copper Catcher on 06/21/2008 10:01:47
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kavajava
Penny Collector Member



USA
490 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2008 :  10:54:02  Show Profile Send kavajava a Private Message
Unless you are absolutely sure what they are and what is in them, I would recommend staying away.
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
3890 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2008 :  13:48:44  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message
I'm betting on no silver at all in them. Just say no....

Deal

p.s. "Chinese Silver" huh, try this. Not usually a fan of Wikipedia but, You must be logged in to see this link. That is enough for me to see to make my decision.

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- Samuel Adams
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Kurr
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Posted - 06/21/2008 :  14:33:38  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
wow at %2 silver that comes to .27 cents worth. The originals were .780 an ounce on the fatman dollar I bought. I did get 3 when I saw em, I like em tho. Don't have to make money on everything!

thanks guys

*edit, maybe when they said "Chinese silver" they meant it as we would say, American silver or Canadian silver. Wiki there says its used for jewelry, not coinage.


The silver [is] mine, and the gold [is] mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Hag 2:8 [/b]
He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
Good reading: http://ecclesia.org/truth/government.html

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears


Edited by - Kurr on 06/21/2008 14:35:15
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NotABigDeal
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USA
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Posted - 06/21/2008 :  14:49:39  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message
Sad to say, but most anything from China seems to be a fake, unless you know a reputable dealer. I have some pandas, but they came from my usual guy. No worries there. If the coin(s) in question are that under weight, bad deal.

Deal

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Plain and simple.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
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jadedragon
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Canada
3788 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2008 :  23:46:18  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
Chinese coins are for the whole country, not individual provinces. Also, the coins are not in English. To Scary for my taste, and I've been in China multiple times.

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CoinHunter53562
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USA
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Posted - 06/24/2008 :  07:41:59  Show Profile Send CoinHunter53562 a Private Message
I would definitely stay away from them...too many fakes/scams out there involving anything from China.

My hobby: collecting real money 1 copper cent or nickel at a time.

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Kurr
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2906 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2008 :  08:57:20  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
Well I only bought 3, and now the time is passed. here are some pics of the coins I bought, tho not my pics.

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Like I said, I dont care if they are replicas or not, I liked em and $6 total for something you like is fair enough for me. I spend more at McDonalds!

Just wanted ya'll to have a visual of what I was referring to.


The silver [is] mine, and the gold [is] mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Hag 2:8 [/b]
He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
Good reading: http://ecclesia.org/truth/government.html

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears

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Crash
Penny Pincher Member



USA
155 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2008 :  15:18:19  Show Profile Send Crash a Private Message
I was in Shanghai twice this year, & there were tons of vendors hawking silver coins. I didn't have the skill to determine fake from real, but I think the magnet test would be a good starting point. It was funny how hard the vendors tried to convince me they were silver, though. They would clash two coins together & hold them up to your ears so you could hear them ring. Every single one of them did it & I always got a kick out of it.
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fiatboy
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Posted - 06/30/2008 :  14:38:51  Show Profile Send fiatboy a Private Message
A lot of the fakes from China are silver plated.

"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson
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kavajava
Penny Collector Member



USA
490 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2008 :  12:28:38  Show Profile Send kavajava a Private Message
I have some Pandas I bought a long time ago--but any more, I will only buy them slabbed by PCGS or NGC as an assurance that they are genuine.
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just carl
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
601 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2008 :  09:14:14  Show Profile Send just carl a Private Message
After all that Lead in paint on toys from China I would be a little scared to purchase coins from there. Probably now coated with Lead. Where did they get all that Lead for toys anyway?

Carl
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