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redneck
1000+ Penny Miser Member
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 Posted - 05/20/2008 : 20:29:45
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I think "ALL" of us need to be looking at what the next thing coming down the road is.
You can live without Oil.
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In the words of Henry Kissinger:
"Control oil and you control nations;
control food and you control the people."
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nckt
Penny Collector Member
USA
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Posted - 05/20/2008 : 22:57:00
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I'm so happy i don't have to deal with gas :)
I'm 15, and getting a car soon, and it is a EV (eclectic vehicle) |
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No82s
Penny Pincher Member
USA
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Posted - 05/20/2008 : 23:34:35
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| Thats great. Unless your electric comes from nukes or wind you're paying for oil. Oh yeah, natural gas is priced off of oil too. Welcome to the real world. |
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eharrison
Penny Pincher Member
USA
234 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2008 : 02:35:27
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wow I watched that doc. and it is really insightful. I recently heard a news story ( not MSM) from Democracy Now about Monsanto harrasing and suing people for "violating pattens(sp) on GMO soy beans. I had no idea that 70% of them in the U.S. are GMO............WOW. And I def thought the BGH thing had been irradicated(sp) here in the states but I guess not.
WHAT IS SAFE?!?!?!
A comforting thought is that we all must die some time, I just hope I don't kick it at the hand of a multinational like Monsanto. |
Freedom is popular
That's why I voted
Ron Paul! |
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redneck
1000+ Penny Miser Member
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Posted - 05/21/2008 : 05:39:15
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I hope everybody reading this post takes the time to watch this video posted at the top.
I know it is long,but you really owe it to YOURSELF to watch it.
It starts out a little boring talking about herbicide but then starts to get to the heart of it and finishes with the grim reality of GMO food being released in our environment.
This is happening now,with little fanfare, with consequences that are hard to grasp.
And if that isn't enough for you...........
They "Patented" the pig, YES I said the PIG..........!!!!!!!!!
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It would be funny if it were not TRUE....
The patenting of "Life" (GMO), will, and "is" being used for the ultimate control of the people.
None of this is possible without the approval of Government and the unseen hands that guide them.
In the words of Henry Kissinger:
"Control oil and you control nations;
control food and you control the people."
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JerrySpringer
Penny Hoarding Member
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Posted - 05/21/2008 : 10:34:31
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As I understand it, ultimately corporations like the Monsantos of the world, want to skip growing food on land and just have factories that raise fruit, vegetables, assorted flora,etc. in a petri dish. I'll elaborate. The research is aimed at growing the fruit from some kind of stem-type cell. Can it be done? I have no clue, but you can understand the implications of a company that can grow food with nearly 100% yield, let's say. No use of pesticides or land or weather or season of year concerns and they could bend the 'organic' labeling requirements I betcha to fit the corporate marketing needs.
I read a book a few years ago that discussed Monsanto and other chemical companies and how they bought up the seed companies. It was a UK published one. For some reason, Europe has been more aware of food being tinkered with that the US populace. In fact, I think they first raised a stink over the 'terminator technology' that Monsanto holds the patent on. Correct me if I am wrong on any of this. It has been over 10 years since I read about the agriculture technology getting handled like a Frankenstein monster.
I am telling others to start looking at storing heirloom seeds as a simple and low-cost way of providing something for their offspring and family years down the road. It is crazy to think, but we have already been brought up to accept much of the chemicals and technology that goes into putting over-priced food on store shelves. Heck, look at tobacco too. The point is, incrementally and sometimes through shock doctrine, people accept things. If we were told cheap food resulted from factory grown vegetables, many people would go for it. |
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starwarsgeek171
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
651 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2008 : 18:04:01
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| There will ALWAYS be plenty of food in the US (even post-carbon). As for other nations... |
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Ant
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
894 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2008 : 18:36:33
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I've often wondered what will happen when food becomes so expensive that to buy the staples takes a big bite out of the average person's budget. At first, everyone will try to cut back in other ways, but as prices rise, people will have to look at growing some of their own food.
There is not as radical as it sounds -- there's a lot of potential there. For example, think of how much land in the average neighborhood is tied up just in *grass*. Many planned unit developments have restrictive covenants and homeowners' associations that prevent radical changes in landscaping. I'd imagine that those would be rewritten or ignored. Even on a small lot, you can do a lot with some raised beds. Convert them to cold frames in the fall and winter. You can plant potatoes and onions directly in the ground, they have looooooong growing seasons and store well. Heirloom seeds are still available.
Local ordinances that forbid chickens/rabbits within city limits might even be repealed, further increaasing food production capacity.
The average person is going to really have to change his way of thinking to get through the next years comfortably (in body and spirit). Most of us -- myself included -- have gotten so far away from how families lived even just a couple of generations ago. |
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Saul Mine
Penny Collector Member
USA
343 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2008 : 23:33:14
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Hunger In America:
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swusc
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
553 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2008 : 10:41:42
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It would help if we would stop paying farmers to not grow crops. The government helps them not flood the market. It is done in the name of keep price high enough to stop the farmers from losing money. The problem is governments suck at everything.
Sugar could be so much cheaper, but imports are restricted. You are over paying for sugar because the government is protecting the sugar cane growers.
I wish I could get the government to pay me not to produce stuff. I have to share what I produce to help support all this crap.
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`Everybody is ignorant. Only on different subjects.' Will Rogers
"This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the "hidden" confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists' antagonism toward the gold standard." Alan Greenspan, 1966. |
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Nickelless
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WilliamC
Penny Collector Member
USA
471 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2008 : 08:26:11
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I've been trying to talk to my wife about developing a better meal-planning strategy, but we argue about what to have for supper, much less buying food for long term storage and planning a months meals in advance.
But we'll keep working on it, we've got 3 kids that we'll be feeding for years to come so now is the time to plan. |
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