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insurrection1517
Penny Collector Member


USA
262 Posts

Posted - 02/24/2008 :  20:19:55  Show Profile Send insurrection1517 a Private Message
Hello,

Is there anyway to tell a .800 silver/.200 copper 1967 dimes from a .500/.500 dimes?

I understand they are the same weight, but there must be a way to tell them apart.

Thanks!

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fasTTcar
Penny Hoarding Member



Canada
573 Posts

Posted - 02/25/2008 :  08:16:42  Show Profile Send fasTTcar a Private Message
My refiner tells me :-)

I did a melt of $250 face value 67 dimes and quarters and it worked out to be about 80% at 80% and 20% at 50%. YMMV, but the dealers I speak to privately say they keep the 67's for themselves as it has the most upside compared to buy price.

As far as I know, there is no practical way outside of melting them to find out.

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 02/25/2008 :  11:14:39  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
If you had a strong enough magnet, wouldn't the 50 percenters have some slight attraction? Maybe you could measure variances in the magnetic field.

Also maybe you could differentiate by running a current through the dime and measuring the conductive resistance.

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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1641 Posts

Posted - 02/25/2008 :  12:08:14  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HoardCopperByTheTon

If you had a strong enough magnet, wouldn't the 50 percenters have some slight attraction? Maybe you could measure variances in the magnetic field.

Also maybe you could differentiate by running a current through the dime and measuring the conductive resistance.



Good point. I bet a Ryedale or other coin discriminator could tell them apart if you tuned them right. Maybe even a good metal detector could tell the difference if you made sure the distance to the coin stayed constant while you waved your wand.
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NiBullionCu
Penny Pincher Member



USA
168 Posts

Posted - 02/25/2008 :  12:44:50  Show Profile Send NiBullionCu a Private Message
I've seen this question asked many a time, but have never heard any reports of any one successfully able to discriminate between the two without refining.

Here is something I found online:

Schwerter's Testing Fluid is made by dissolving all of the Potassium Dichromate Salt in a solution of 3/4 oz Nitric Acid plus 1/4 oz distilled water.

Testing Below 14 Karat and Base Metals with Schwerter Salts
File a deep notch in the test piece and apply a drop of Schwerter's Solution in the notch. The colour reaction of the solution with the metal will be as follows:

* Brass - Dark Brown
* Copper - Brown
* Nickel - Blue
* Palladium - None
* Gold - None
* Silver Pure - Bright Red
* Silver .925 - Dark Red
* Silver .800 - Brown
* Silver .500 - Green
* Lead - Yellow
* Tin - Yellow


As was previously mentioned, a good discriminator or metal detector may be able to tell.
Or you could build a very sensitive "Wheatstone Bridge" to test with.

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insurrection1517
Penny Collector Member



USA
262 Posts

Posted - 02/25/2008 :  13:59:18  Show Profile Send insurrection1517 a Private Message
Okay, I guess I can try these methods. I saw a coin discriminator on ebay that someone posted on here a while back, but I'm not sure what is entailed in wiring one of those up. Is it difficult?

I'm not sure if I want to try the testing fluid as I have to file a notch in the coin.

As I understand the Canadian mint produced about 36 million of the .800 silver dimes, and 35 million of the .500 silver dimes during 1967 - all with the fish (mackeral) on the back.

I have about 25 of these dimes, I've accumulated, and am trying to figure out what to do with them.

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fasTTcar
Penny Hoarding Member



Canada
573 Posts

Posted - 02/25/2008 :  15:28:37  Show Profile Send fasTTcar a Private Message
I have a Ryedale and spent about 20 minutes fooling around with it trying to differentiate, but did not get anywhere.

It probably can be done, but I was unable to do it.

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 02/25/2008 :  15:34:34  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
I don't think the discriminator on eBay or in the Ryedale would be sensitive enough to tell the difference between the 2. I think Reis makes a machine that would, and maybe one of the De La Rue machines that allows you to train it to differntiate metalic content.

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NiBullionCu
Penny Pincher Member



USA
168 Posts

Posted - 02/26/2008 :  08:21:56  Show Profile Send NiBullionCu a Private Message
I can't vouch for the accuracy of this device, but it looks interesting:

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quote:

FINE SILVER (100%) Ink will turn black within 30 minutes of exposure.

STERLING SILVER (90%): Ink will turn black within 15 minutes of exposure.

50%-75% SILVER: Thin ink turning black within 5 minutes of exposure.

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