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Art Tatum
Penny Collector Member
USA
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 Posted - 02/19/2008 : 22:32:49
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what is the best way to sort wheat pennies from the already $2000 of copper I have in buckets in my garage??? is there a practical way baring hand sorting I am unaware of?
 
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
3890 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2008 : 06:23:25
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Nope....Do you have a kid?
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Live free or die.
Plain and simple.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
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TXTim
Penny Hoarding Member
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Posted - 02/20/2008 : 07:33:49
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Originally posted by Art Tatum
what is the best way to sort wheat pennies from the already $2000 of copper I have in buckets in my garage??? is there a practical way baring hand sorting I am unaware of?
I just grab a large, stiff, cardboard box lid and set it on my lap while watching TV. Grab a handful and dump them in the lid - swirl them around til you can see them all. Pick out the wheats showing, flip the other older looking ones. When you're done, tip all the pennies to the corner and dump them in another bucket. Then, take a sip of beer.
Shouldn't take more than a week, a few hours per night.
Kind of fun and relaxing to me.
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1641 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2008 : 07:46:53
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I sort for them using brute force and look for non-wheat errors at the same time, but I have always wondered if it would be faster to use some kind of clear table that you could crawl under to see the other half without all the flipping. Now wouldn't that be a funny sight.
Of course if you wanted to go industrial it would be fairly simple to have a conveyor belt with a ramp in the middle that flips them over as they travel along.  |
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Art Tatum
Penny Collector Member
USA
400 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2008 : 10:22:04
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"do you have a "kid" ! haaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaa yes!
good thing I had lasic surgery I guess! |
my machine is running! |
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cyberdan
Penny Collector Member
USA
289 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2008 : 10:33:26
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Originally posted by TXTimWhen you're done, tip all the pennies...in another bucket. Then, take a sip of beer.
Curious people want to know.
Do your wheatie finds go up or down after several tip & sips???
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TXTim
Penny Hoarding Member
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Posted - 02/20/2008 : 15:19:05
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Originally posted by cyberdan
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Originally posted by TXTimWhen you're done, tip all the pennies...in another bucket. Then, take a sip of beer.
Curious people want to know.
Do your wheatie finds go up or down after several tip & sips???
LOL!!
Finds go up by the hour.
Then I have to resort the next day....... |
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Posted - 02/21/2008 : 06:06:20
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Thats nuts to have 2000 dollars worth pennys in buckets . At same your looking for wheats put all au / bu blazing red 59 thru 81 copper pennys in rolls. Its worth more than copper scrap or bullion. Have you seen prices on ebay on what they pay for clean rolls of 59 thru 81 copper pennys. Example if had an roll of 1960 small date pennys you can sell it 180 bucks per roll no problem. I ruined an pile of pennys I left in my building over the years. Condestion got them and turned them green and ruined them from siting my garage.
On my 1959 thru 1981 pennys I short out. This what I do .
1. I rebox the junk 1959 thru 1981 junk brown coins . I roll them up into rolls and I dont use flat wrapers. I use the expensive 1.45 paper rolls from walmart. I reroll them and repack back into Brinks boxs. I write 59 thru 81 copper and tape them shut. There are 25 bucks face in boxs. I dont reuse fedboxs since they cheap. These are junk brown copper coins or set rejects.
2. All 59 thru 81 copper that blazing red . I put them in box and will sell those for more money than copper bullion. These are clean red cents they can install into folders or build au/bu rolls from them. I may build rolls out them later or build another 50 folders for ebay.
3. I bag all 1968 thru 1974 s mints and leave out 1970s mints. I put 1970s and 1960 in new bag to be checked for small dates later. One 1970 s small date cent is worth 10 bucks brown or 65 bucks each that are unc or blazing reds.
4. All wheats are shorted also or installed in sets. I bag them by years and mint marks
You guys need find other ways to make money from shorting copper pennys becides selling them in bulk lots for less than 2 cents each on ebay or wheats for 200 bucks per 50 bucks face.
If copper prices crash or go down you can sell your pennys to collectors or set builders . Junk copper is worth 1.00 per roll but unc or bu /au rolls will sell for over 2 to 180 bucks per roll. Or you can sell nice single coins like 1959 thru 1981 singles for 1 buck each on ebay . They sell like hotcakes to collectors. I can turn an roll of unc 1975 pennys into 50 to 35 bucks on ebay selling single coins.
You can learn tricks to turn your hoard into more money than just copper scrap.
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I love those fed boxes and hoard up pre 64 silver coins such as rolls of 64 half dollers. Maybe copper will be very expensive such as silver is. |
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1641 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2008 : 07:34:32
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| Great post...there is hidden value in those hoards of copper pennies. Now all I need is the knowledge to unlock it. |
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Epaphras
Penny Collector Member
USA
382 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2008 : 14:39:58
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Originally posted by chevrolet454ss
On my 1959 thru 1981 pennys I short out. This what I do .
1. I rebox the junk 1959 thru 1981 junk brown coins . I roll them up into rolls and I dont use flat wrapers. I use the expensive 1.45 paper rolls from walmart.
My Walmart keeps jacking up the price for my rollers. Now they are $1.67 for 48. But they look more 'professional' and look good in the Fed boxes. Maybe when I get up to HCBTT's level, I can buy a roller.
After reading some of your posts, I have started doing some albums for the AU's I find. The remainders I have in a jar. My goal is to make a bag of 5000 and see how that sells compared to 'junk coppers' as you term it. |
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Art Tatum
Penny Collector Member
USA
400 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2008 : 15:18:36
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yes,454's post is good but damn.........I have 3 surviving rug rats to chase around plus a 60 hour a week job. LOL
that all takes real eye sore to do! |
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fiatboy
Administrator
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Posted - 02/21/2008 : 15:21:42
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Thats nuts to have 2000 dollars worth pennys in buckets . At same your looking for wheats put all au / bu blazing red 59 thru 81 copper pennys in rolls. Its worth more than copper scrap or bullion. Have you seen prices on ebay on what they pay for clean rolls of 59 thru 81 copper pennys. Example if had an roll of 1960 small date pennys you can sell it 180 bucks per roll no problem. I ruined an pile of pennys I left in my building over the years. Condestion got them and turned them green and ruined them from siting my garage.
On my 1959 thru 1981 pennys I short out. This what I do .
1. I rebox the junk 1959 thru 1981 junk brown coins . I roll them up into rolls and I dont use flat wrapers. I use the expensive 1.45 paper rolls from walmart. I reroll them and repack back into Brinks boxs. I write 59 thru 81 copper and tape them shut. There are 25 bucks face in boxs. I dont reuse fedboxs since they cheap. These are junk brown copper coins or set rejects.
2. All 59 thru 81 copper that blazing red . I put them in box and will sell those for more money than copper bullion. These are clean red cents they can install into folders or build au/bu rolls from them. I may build rolls out them later or build another 50 folders for ebay.
3. I bag all 1968 thru 1974 s mints and leave out 1970s mints. I put 1970s and 1960 in new bag to be checked for small dates later. One 1970 s small date cent is worth 10 bucks brown or 65 bucks each that are unc or blazing reds.
4. All wheats are shorted also or installed in sets. I bag them by years and mint marks
You guys need find other ways to make money from shorting copper pennys becides selling them in bulk lots for less than 2 cents each on ebay or wheats for 200 bucks per 50 bucks face.
If copper prices crash or go down you can sell your pennys to collectors or set builders . Junk copper is worth 1.00 per roll but unc or bu /au rolls will sell for over 2 to 180 bucks per roll. Or you can sell nice single coins like 1959 thru 1981 singles for 1 buck each on ebay . They sell like hotcakes to collectors. I can turn an roll of unc 1975 pennys into 50 to 35 bucks on ebay selling single coins.
You can learn tricks to turn your hoard into more money than just copper scrap.
Chevrolet454ss
 Thanks for bringing up the numismatic side. Blazin' red pennies can be sold for more than mere scrap. |
"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 02/21/2008 : 15:28:33
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Originally posted by horgad
Great post...there is hidden value in those hoards of copper pennies. Now all I need is the knowledge to unlock it.
And the time 
chevrolet454ss makes some great points about many of the copper cents being worth much more than just copper if you only take the time to look.
I do love my 2 rolling machines! Machine rolled copper cents look so nice. Now when I roll up the coppers with one of the machines I apply a custom made Avery label I produced to each roll. It says:
COPPER CENTS
1959-1982
I even have a special label machine that advances the sheet of labels and sets up each roll of 3 labels for easy removal from the sheet to apply to the rolls. You know how I love machines.. LOL
The finished rolls are packed back in the fed boxes to make nice copper bricks.
I would be happy to give someone the crimped end penny wrappers (only used once) but can't think of a way to ship them cheaply. For guys that would like a more finished look they do make crimping machines that will crimp the end of those rolls for you. They also have a manual device for it called a twist-n-crimp.
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If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available. |
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aboxaweek
Penny Collector Member
USA
326 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2008 : 15:45:16
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My Walmart keeps jacking up the price for my rollers. Now they are $1.67 for 48. But they look more 'professional' and look good in the Fed boxes. Maybe when I get up to HCBTT's level, I can buy a roller.
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I must have bought the same rolls you have. Coin-tainer. |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2008 : 15:58:15
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| Those Coin-tainer rolls are very good quality.. but cost too much. I get a 1000 foot roll of automatic coin wrapping paper for my machines for about $6-7. Each roll will roll 2000 rolls of pennies! |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available. |
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aboxaweek
Penny Collector Member
USA
326 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2008 : 20:35:07
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If i ever need to roll 2000 rolls of pennies i would be proud.
During my boredom/spare time when i have no pennies, i have been sorting them by date and rolling them that way (for the coppers). Is this good, or just a waste of time??? |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2008 : 21:02:32
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Originally posted by aboxaweek
If i ever need to roll 2000 rolls of pennies i would be proud.
Yeah, but you should have seen the look on the bank lady's face when I showed up with 2300 rolls the first weekend after getting paper for my machine..
Each person sorts and stores their hoard differently. There is no right or wrong way.. you just organize it in the way that suits you best. I think seperating the S mint coppers out would be a good idea.. there are a lot less of those and they would probably command a premium in the market. Also, if you have everything sorted out by date and mintmark and you want to go back later and look at specific dates for OMM's, RPM's, small dates, doubled-dies etc. it would make it a lot easier.
Usually when folks sort wheat cents they put 1940-58 P&D in one group, S mints in another and the teens, 20's and 30's in seperate groups. Sometimes they break the earlier ones down my date in seperate rolls/tubes. |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available. |
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Posted - 02/22/2008 : 05:22:50
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Hoardcopperbytheton is correct there is no wrong or correct way on hoarding copper. My box of pennys that my sister had when passed away in 1993 I got in 1993 when she died. I never spent them and never did anything with but put in an box in 1993. I saved her $2.48 cents worth pennys for years in my non ac building. In 2007 when I checked it they turned green and her pennys had spots on them. I was so upset since her pennys ruined. They were my sisters and wanted to keep them for the rest of my life since they were her lefht over money she had. Why they ruined they were in an non heated or ac building. They turned green and corroded. I was not happy about it.
I did the same with my Grandmother when she passed away in 1984 . I saved her wallet with all money see had in there aslong with her photes , credit cards, drivers Linesse, change she had in there. I will never spend it and sometimes I open it up and just look at her coins or her stuff. I put up and on rare occasion I will look at it. I lefht intact just like it was in 1984 before she passed away. It still has all her change with pennys in there after all those years.
Those old coin stashs I saved for those years will give an person an Idea on what was being used in 1984 and 1993. I not happy about my sisters 1993 stash turning green and ruining. Thats the reason why I keep my coin hoard inside my home these days. I dont want them to ruin. Trust me pennys will turn green fast from siting in an wharehouse or no heated or ac building. I ruined my sisters coins that way.
Your correct if you learn about those pennys and study ebay completed sales your copper hoard will worth an lot more money becides just copper bullion or scrap. I amazed on what collectors will pay for stuff.
Have fun Chevrolet454ss |
I love those fed boxes and hoard up pre 64 silver coins such as rolls of 64 half dollers. Maybe copper will be very expensive such as silver is. |
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Tourney64
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1035 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2008 : 09:14:35
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| I can not get 50 rolls in a Brinks box after putting them in the nice shotgun shell rolls (Cointainer). Where are you getting your $25 empty boxes? |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2008 : 11:15:45
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| Tourney.. there are basicly 2 types of boxes. The standard Brinks wrap boxes where you lay down the rolls would probably not work for Cointainer rolls because of the looseness of the wrappers and the thickness of the paper. My machines roll really tight and 50 rolls just barely fit in the box after rolling. The other type of box with the flap that glues down like N.F. String and Son or any other generic of that type would work much better. The rolls stand on end in these boxes and the fit will be much better. .30 caliber ammo cans work pretty well also.. they hold 100 rolls perfectly. |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available. |
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wolvesdad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
2164 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2008 : 00:16:33
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Question: Chevrolet... I hardly ever find pre-1976 pennies that are anywhere close to AU much less BU (in 10,000 pennies I may have found 25 that were AU, none that I would call BU)
Am I gettin the short end of the stick or .... what?
Do you still call it BU if it has any black or green tiny corrosion spots?
Do you sell them as AU/BU or as AU and others as BU ?
Guess we can always follow the sages advice...if your BU's are few, just sort more.
But if you can provide any other feedback Chevrolet, that would be appreciated. |
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