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El Dee
Penny Hoarding Member


USA
547 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2008 :  00:18:53  Show Profile Send El Dee a Private Message
To Ryedale users:
I run a zinc keep, then hand sort the coppers. At 10 boxes a week, this is no biggie. The zincs go back the following week.

I've noticed no wheats earlier than 1919. Seemingly not too strange.

On a whim, I took my 1890 Indian and dropped it through - it went to the copper side.

I took my 1907 Indian and dropped it through - it went to the zinc side. And again. And again. And STILL again.

*PANIC SETS IN*

I pulled out my thumbbuster album and pulled out every Lincoln I have before 1919 and dropped them through. Of 24, 17 went with the zincs, and 7 went with the coppers.

Using Andy's instructions, I tuned the pot about a quarter turn clockwise - until some zincs started rejecting on a zinc sample - then tried the same coins. Only three went with the zincs.

It may not be worthwhile for such a small return - I get about half of 1% wheats anyway, but if you are actively looking for the old stuff - HEED ANDY'S ADVICE! Then be sure to turn it back before doing your next copper keep.

Trust the government? Ask an Indian.

horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1641 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2008 :  07:24:45  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
I do two things. One, I put a light directly over my zinc bucket and I watch as I sort. Two, I do what I call "the slow pour" and pour all my zincs slowly from one bucket to another while watching for old pennies. Also if I get a find or two from a box, I give that batch special attention incase it contained part of collection. I figure by doing the above I get about 90% of the good wheats and 99% of the Indians (they are easier to spot) out of my zinc bucket. That is not to bad I think for the minimal effort that I put into it.

Of course, the other solution that I think most people are using is like you said to do another pass on the Ryedale...
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2008 :  21:28:01  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
My method is similar to horgad's. I have tried various methods including copper keep and rerunning the zinc with a zinc keep and the sensitivity adjusted. It is critical that you adjust the potentiometer when running the zinc for this to work properly. I have tried running the zinc keep first. If you make the proper adjustments you will capture most of the older wheats and Indians. But not always every single one. In experimenting with methods using a couple or rolls of pennies from the teens I was unable to achieve 100% capture every time without adjusting sensitivity to the point where it rejected most zincs also. So my method is to do a copper keep and then dump the zinc rejects in a special bucket I got at the dollar store. The bucket is about 12 inches wide and 6 inches deep. I then quickly sift through all the zinc rejects and pluck out all the keepers before dumping the rejects into the counting machine or the rolling machine. The human eye is an amazing thing. You would be surprised how those old wheats, indians and dimes jump out at you when in a group of zincs. Of course no Indians have jumped out at me yet this year but I found 6 of them using this method in December. I am also confident when I turn those zincs back in that I have not missed a single good one. I will get that first Indian of the year soon.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.
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El Dee
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
547 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2008 :  01:30:57  Show Profile Send El Dee a Private Message
Thanks for the hints. I sorted this weekend with the light over the pail and a manila folder arranged to drop them gently onto the top of a sliding pyramid. I pulled out a couple from the zincs using this method.

Using a pail without something to slow the pennies, the pennies dropping tend to flip and bounce before I can tell what's on the back.

Hoard, those 6 you found were the last ones in the country. :o)

Trust the government? Ask an Indian.

Edited by - El Dee on 02/11/2008 01:36:04
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2008 :  08:09:56  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by El Dee



Hoard, those 6 you found were the last ones in the country. :o)


I was having a great Christmas season! I even sent one to NotABigDeal for Christmas so he would know what they look like. He will find one eventually. I may have used up all my luck that month though. I think 4 of those 6 were found in my manual sift of the zincs after missing them with both the copper sort and the zinc resort. So it pays to slow down a little bit and just do the zinc sift as a seperate operation. I love the machine.. but no machine is absolutely perfect.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.
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cyberdan
Penny Collector Member



USA
289 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2008 :  10:28:31  Show Profile Send cyberdan a Private Message
quote:

capture most of the older ... Indians.

You would be surprised how those old ... indians ... jump out at you

Of course no Indians have jumped out at me yet this year but I found 6 of them using this method in December.

I will get that first Indian of the year soon.


Are we talking about hoarding copper or a trip with Daniel Boone?
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator



USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2008 :  19:11:37  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
Hey, it's always an adventure with me. Had to throw away a perfectly good coon on Sunday. Damn.. that critter woulda made a fine cap.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available.
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