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coincollector101
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Posted - 01/14/2008 :  05:56:34  Show Profile Send coincollector101 a Private Message
I found a Lab that does Analysis on metals.
I just stumbled across it and remembered we were looking for one to test weird pennies.
You must be logged in to see this link.

Have a good day,
CC

El Dee
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
547 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2008 :  08:48:37  Show Profile Send El Dee a Private Message
Dang.

I just tossed one of those weird 1974 pennies into the barrel.

Trust the government? Ask an Indian.
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fiatboy
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912 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2008 :  11:27:43  Show Profile Send fiatboy a Private Message
I still got mine. I may have to look into this. Thanks for the linky, CC.

"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson
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MaDeuce
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USA
124 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2008 :  09:24:40  Show Profile Send MaDeuce a Private Message
$30/test is a great deal. They seem to be kinda slow (~2 weeks), but at that price, who cares? Most test labs charge $100-250/sample.

One alternative is to bring a cold case of beer over to the neighborhood scrap yard on Friday afternoon. Give them the beer if they'll leave you alone in a room with their XRF for 30 minutes. Seriously, if you have a couple of things you'd like to test, most scrap yards will be happy to let you use their XRF, which is hard to beat.

MaDeuce
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fiatboy
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912 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2008 :  14:56:09  Show Profile Send fiatboy a Private Message
Would my beloved 1974 mystery penny be damaged in this assay? I don't know much about testing metals beyond acid tests and fire assays.

"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson
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pencilvanian
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
2209 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2008 :  18:08:58  Show Profile Send pencilvanian a Private Message
You are lucky to have such scrap dealers near you MaDeuce.

The Scrap dealers I have dealt with have the modern technology of a scale to weigh the scrap and a forklift to haul larger quantities of scrap from point A to point B.

I guess scrapers near me are just behind the times.
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MaDeuce
Penny Pincher Member



USA
124 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2008 :  19:37:39  Show Profile Send MaDeuce a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by fiatboy

Would my beloved 1974 mystery penny be damaged in this assay? I don't know much about testing metals beyond acid tests and fire assays.



The test that was mentioned at the beginning of the thread is non-destructive. My somewhat limited understanding of these tests is that X-ray spectroscopy (the original) test, is the same thing as XRF (X-ray fluorescence). This test just bombards the sample with X-rays and then measures/categorizes the emissions from the metal. The emissions are ultimately translated into metal content percentages.

One caveat about XRF is that is only looks at the surface. If you have a clad coin, you can get a misleading reading. To guard against this, I will sand a coin down on one side until it is about 1/2 the original thickness. That way, I know that I am getting a reading at the core.

For your prize penny, you'd have to settle for the surface reading if you did XRF.

If you want a deeper "whole coin" reading, another option would be an eddy current sensor. This is what most of the alloy-detection systems in sorters use to discriminate between coins. A place that does NDT (non-destructive testing) would likely have these devices. I have not seen one at a salvage yard.

The most accurate test involves dissolving the coin in acid and then running a spectrographic test. Obviously, you aren't interested in this one.

MaDecue
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fiatboy
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Posted - 01/15/2008 :  20:02:06  Show Profile Send fiatboy a Private Message
Thanks, MaDeuce!

"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson
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