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jorhyne
Penny Pincher Member
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 Posted - 01/05/2008 : 10:33:45
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I'm not really a big enough hoarder to justify the cost of a ryedale (I do 3-6 boxes/month) but I still wouldn't mind a faster method than hand sorting. Has anyone built their own devices or machines that sort faster than what you could by hand. If not do you have any ideas that you think would work?
I am trying to come up with a somewhat simple design I can build myself, but I'm not having much luck in the idea department...
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aloneibreak
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
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Posted - 01/05/2008 : 15:04:39
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try this thread
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Tourney64
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 01/05/2008 : 16:47:24
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| I built my own coin sorter, out of $50 parts. I decided to buy the Ryedale sorter which is much better, rather than spend my time improving mine. The main part is a coin comparitor, which you can usually find on EBay for $20. |
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c140cessna
Penny Collector Member
USA
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Posted - 01/05/2008 : 20:26:09
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There is not better method than a Ryedale...for the money.
Ryedale has built and sold a few low cost units that do not have a motorized feed system.
Another option is to use a digital scale....Hoard Copper By The Ton has a lot of experience with this system...so do others on this forum..
Save up a few bucks and get a Ryedale.
You could just buy sorted copper for 2X face value. |
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Tourney64
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1035 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2008 : 20:52:31
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Here's a nice digital scale. Selling for $20.98 (.99 + $19.99 shipping) on EBay. Works great and has calibration weights and batteries with it. Goes 2 digits bast the decimal on grams, also does oz. Perfect for determining those copper vs. zincs. Note that he has different descriptions for the same scale. The one I bought said for doing grains on gunpowder. The ones that he describes as for gold and silver coins end up getting bid higher, but it's the same model he's selling for all of them.
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jorhyne
Penny Pincher Member
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Posted - 01/05/2008 : 21:17:42
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So do you just put the individual coin on the scale and then look on the readout to see how much each coin weighs? That doesn't seem like it would be any faster than just looking at the dates on the coin.
Edit: P.S, here is a cheaper scale with free shipping, from a reliable company (I've used them 10+ times): You must be logged in to see this link. |
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Edited by - jorhyne on 01/05/2008 21:20:36 |
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 01/06/2008 : 09:53:13
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I built a special table with a built in coin catcher and coin discriminator for maybe $30 not including scraps I already had around the house. I sorted 300k pennies with it. Before I upgraded to an apprentice, I was averaging 35 minutes per box. Also my method took a lot of hand speed, and coordination (two hands doing two different things) and concentration. Fatigue set in pretty quickly, but all in all not bad for a home brewed jalopy sorting system.
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If I get around to it, I'll but my used parts up for sale for a song. Just don't hesitate to buy a Ryedale if you decide bulk penny sorting is for you. |
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Tourney64
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1035 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2008 : 12:41:13
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I recommend the Ryedale. Even the inexpensive models are worth it. If you want to spend all your time building something which does the same thing maybe not as good as the Ryedale, while the rest of us continue to pull the coppers out of circulation, it's your choice. The percentages have gone down in many areas already.
Here's a video of my home made sorter before I purchased the Ryedale apprentice. Total cost of parts in my home made machine was under $40 and I could have spent more time improving it, but my pennies kept piling up. I spent much more than the $40 trying to get things to work.
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In an answer to your other comments. the scale will help vs. using the eyes, and you can't easily tell the 1982 copper vs. zinc. I preferred 2 digits past the decimal on grams. Yes, you can put the coins on the scale read and sort it then og to the next. Some of us older half blind guys can't read the dates very easily.
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jorhyne
Penny Pincher Member
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Posted - 01/06/2008 : 14:26:22
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Hey Tourney,
Thanks for that video, that is pretty useful. I don't doubt the superiority of the Ryedale machines but I am young, have a limited budget and I enjoy building stuff. If it can be a DIY project or I can buy it, I normally choose the DIY route.
So I bought the comparator off ebay and I think I am going to dismantle a cheap coin sorter I have to make a feeder for the comparator. |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
 Posted - 01/06/2008 : 14:51:25
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The Ryelade is a great way to go. If you were to buy one you would suddenly be doing the volume to justify it. Easy to do on a budget.. you only have to pay for the coins you keep.. the rest you just turn back in and cycle them into more penny boxes.
The cheapest improvement in speed is the scale though. When I switched from hand sorting to a digital scale my sorting speed improved 100%. You don't even have to weigh them one at a time either. You can do 4 or 5 at a time since they will mostly be zinc. Even if you were to only do 1 at a time it is still faster than hand sorting because you do not have to turn the coin over to heads and then orient it so you can read the date. For those of us with older eyes it is much easier to read that digital scale than to read the date on the coin.
Even though I was much faster with the scale, I kept buying pennies faster than I was sorting them, so I had to get a Ryedale to clear the backlog. Best money I ever spent on a machine. |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available. |
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NiBullionCu
Penny Pincher Member
USA
168 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2008 : 17:52:02
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As a kid I had a mechanicl bank that looked like a robot.
The coins went into the arms and legs.
One leg was nickels and the other leg was quarters,
one arm was dimes and the other arm was pennies.
You put the coins in one at a time in the top (head) and it sorted via size and weight to get it to the correct "appendage"
It used the weight differential to get the pennies and dimes to go the right way.
There was a balance beam lever, the dimes, being lighter, rolled down this balance beam,
but the pennies tripped it "teeter-totter" style and fell the other direction.
So if you can find a mechanical bank to modify, or try to make your own "teeter-totter" assembly. The lighter pennies (2.5gm Zn) roll along and the heavy pennies (3.11gm Cu)teeter it the other way... |
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Posted - 01/09/2008 : 20:16:25
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Originally posted by HoardCopperByTheTon
Even though I was much faster with the scale, I kept buying pennies faster than I was sorting them, so I had to get a Ryedale to clear the backlog. Best money I ever spent on a machine.
I saw your pictures, you never did clear the backlog !! |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 01/09/2008 : 20:24:57
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| LOL.. that is a fresh pile. Since I have lots of great machines I tend to buy heavier. I got a little busy doing the garage conversion and at the day job and got a little behind on sorting. That pile is only a 2 week supply. If I don't keep acquiring pennies at a good rate I will run out again.. Hmmm.. maybe I should buy another Ryedale. |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available. |
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jorhyne
Penny Pincher Member
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 20:58:47
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| Ok, well I've received my comparator and bought a cheapo 12v power supply from radioshack. The thing is that I'm not very experienced with AC adapters, so for those of you who have built your own sorters do I just need to cut off the tip and strip the cable to get the wires I need to have? Any help or pictures would be appreciated. |
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