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Spikeanator6982
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Posted - 07/17/2010 :  22:08:17  Show Profile Send Spikeanator6982 a Private Message
Why does it seem franklin halves alway bring less than kennedy halves, it would seem to me the Franklins are older and same amount of silver assuming same condition I would think the same price would be seen?

Neckro
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Posted - 07/17/2010 :  22:20:20  Show Profile  Send Neckro an AOL message  Click to see Neckro's MSN Messenger address  Send Neckro a Yahoo! Message Send Neckro a Private Message
The difference in silver is minute compared to a simi-worn, to an unc silver coin. But it would add up if you have thousands face. IMO premiums are garbage for junk coins.

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wolvesdad
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Posted - 07/17/2010 :  22:38:39  Show Profile Send wolvesdad a Private Message
if you are looking at ebay prices I would guess:
-many 1964 kennedy's are listed as BU rolls
-90% Kennedy's were only made ONE year, could give greater demand
-IMHO Kennedy's are more attractive than Franklins, though I do like the Liberty bell on the Frank.

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Sheikh_yer_BuTay
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Posted - 07/18/2010 :  08:57:54  Show Profile Send Sheikh_yer_BuTay a Private Message
Franklin, Kennedy... it does not matter. I want them all! On eBay, the chances of getting heavily worn coins is less when you buy Kennedys, so, you have to decide if the small amount of extra silver is worth the price.

Sorry to be so slow to catch on. What is IMO? What is IMHO?

I just started reading the tracking threads. WOW! I had no idea there were still so many silver coins in circulation! I thought it had all been pulled from circulation with machines by 1976. Now I understand why you guys are so excited! Can't wait to get some $1,000 bags and get to work!
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novillero
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Posted - 07/18/2010 :  09:45:40  Show Profile Send novillero a Private Message
IMO = In my opinion
IMO = In my humble opinion

Along the lines of this thread, I am no longer buying mercs because of the wear. A roll of junk mercs is not the same as a roll of junk Roosies.

As to Franklins, the same, but halves don't get as worn as dimes. I also think people personally like JFK the man more than Franklin. So, to some small extent, I think the culkt of personality plays a roll in all this too. (Sorry for the pun, "roll")
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NotABigDeal
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Posted - 07/18/2010 :  10:59:05  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message
On the flip side....

Many people want the older coins and will pay the same if not more for the older, generally non-circulating coins. Even with the wear.

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beauanderos
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Posted - 07/18/2010 :  12:24:00  Show Profile Send beauanderos a Private Message
I don't think people generally intend to pay what they do on ebay... the bidding process and ego causes them to overpay practically every time if they don't use a sniping tool or have excellent self-restraint. Some people assume a numismatic premium is warranted with a collectible series like the Franklins, others figure that the infinitesimally smaller amount of silver present in BU Kennedy's will someday make paying more now worth the expense. But then they run into idiots who take it personal that someone would bid against them and at that point - if two meet head on - look out! If you look at completed listings every once in awhile you will see rolls of junk silver (like rosies) for double what they should sell for.

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beauanderos
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Posted - 07/18/2010 :  12:25:34  Show Profile Send beauanderos a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Spikeanator6982

Why does it seem franklin halves alway bring less than kennedy halves, it would seem to me the Franklins are older and same amount of silver assuming same condition I would think the same price would be seen?

And gem BU rolls of Franklins DO bring higher prices than Kennedy's, especially if you can find full bell lines examples

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wolvesdad
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Posted - 07/19/2010 :  02:39:46  Show Profile Send wolvesdad a Private Message
True dat on the BU Franklin rolls. Not very common though on ebay.

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JobIII
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Posted - 07/19/2010 :  16:52:38  Show Profile Send JobIII a Private Message
Isn't it also that Kennedy's were less likely to have circulated so there may be less wear on the coin? The Franklins i've pulled from circulation still look pretty good, but all have more wear than the kennedy's and that must mean at least to a minor degree less weight in silver.

I think the Franklins look better and would prefer then to Kennedy's if the coins were in similar condition. Otherwise i'd take the kennedy's.

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Lemon Thrower
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Posted - 07/19/2010 :  18:08:27  Show Profile Send Lemon Thrower a Private Message
i wouldn't pay a premium for BU kennedy's or 63 Franklins because they are quite common.

walkers are getting hard to find, and walkers older than 1940 are much more rare than their mintage numbers suggest.

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Flbandit
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USA
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Posted - 07/19/2010 :  18:48:08  Show Profile Send Flbandit a Private Message
For me it seems to run in cycles. I tend to buy what I can get the cheapest for hoarding purposes, Sometimes it's Kennedys, sometimes it's Franklins, some times it's Walkers. I've even gotten a few Barbers for close to spot.

Are you throwing that out?
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JobIII
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USA
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Posted - 07/20/2010 :  06:54:09  Show Profile Send JobIII a Private Message
I have never seen large quantities of halves selling much lower than spot. It always seems like the larger the collection the larger the premium.

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Lemon Thrower
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USA
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Posted - 07/20/2010 :  09:19:05  Show Profile Send Lemon Thrower a Private Message
halves should go for at least a 50 cent premium to spot.

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copper cents at 1.3X
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misteroman
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Posted - 07/20/2010 :  23:55:51  Show Profile Send misteroman a Private Message
Will take a somewhat worn frank over an AU kenny all day. Not really sure why but seem to sell easier

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beauanderos
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USA
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  13:25:49  Show Profile Send beauanderos a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Lemon Thrower

i wouldn't pay a premium for BU kennedy's or 63 Franklins because they are quite common.

walkers are getting hard to find, and walkers older than 1940 are much more rare than their mintage numbers suggest.

You may be right about the Kennedy's but the BU 63 Franklins are a lot scarcer than might be indicated by their original mintage figures. According to several articles I've read in coin magazines the higher grade Franklins are relatively rare as an inordinate amount of them may have been melted during the price spike

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rainsonme
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USA
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  13:45:25  Show Profile Send rainsonme a Private Message
I can buy Walking Liberty, Franklin, Barber (~G4), or 64 Kennedies at melt. I always buy the walking liberties. I bought a couple rolls of Barbers, but their stack up height was significantly less than the other halfs, so I quit buying them. In my imagination, the Walking Liberties would hold more numismatic value should silver prices crash. I also buy Mercury dimes over pre65 Roosevelt for similar reasons, and I find the mercuries to be in about the same wear condition as the roosevelts.
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Lemon Thrower
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  14:10:43  Show Profile Send Lemon Thrower a Private Message
barbers are going to have much wear. you might stack 30 to equal 20 JFK's. but they'll reliably sell for a big premium. they are very hard to find at melt.

63 franklins - maybe they are hard in bu but not au. i probably should have said au. beautiful coin. if you are going to pay for bu though get an earlier date imho.

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