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thogey
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USA
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Posted - 06/14/2010 :  19:02:33  Show Profile Send thogey a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless

Something tells me that the government isn't going to pay for ammo and food storage, so we'd better get our own.

And Thogey, double-check Romans 3:23--every one of us are sinners, some of us have just asked God for forgiveness.


That was my understanding, but some here seem to disagree. We all try real hard though.

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Neckro
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Saudi Arabia
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Posted - 06/14/2010 :  19:08:22  Show Profile  Send Neckro an AOL message  Click to see Neckro's MSN Messenger address  Send Neckro a Yahoo! Message Send Neckro a Private Message
It's too bad sin a man made concept.

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thogey
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USA
1617 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2010 :  19:11:35  Show Profile Send thogey a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Neckro

It's too bad sin a man made concept.



That is the most spot on wisest statement I've read in a long time.

Sin...is indeed, a man made concept.

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thogey
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USA
1617 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2010 :  19:18:56  Show Profile Send thogey a Private Message
A couple more.

I don't want to pay for HUD, mortgage reductions,WIC.
NPR or NEA.

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aloneibreak
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USA
672 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2010 :  20:54:13  Show Profile Send aloneibreak a Private Message
pretty good list there thogey !

i think you nailed most of em.

if people wanna voluntarily donate to those types of programs - fine.

but no reason i should be FORCED to.

as far as when "americans" are going to get fed up with it...

i dont think they ever will. most will just quit complaining and start taking advantage. a "may as well get my share" mentality if you will

theres no pride in and no reward for self-sufficiency anymore.





My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
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aloneibreak
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USA
672 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2010 :  20:59:56  Show Profile Send aloneibreak a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by thogey

quote:
Originally posted by Neckro

It's too bad sin a man made concept.



That is the most spot on wisest statement I've read in a long time.

Sin...is indeed, a man made concept.




im also curious about this.

somehow im missing the "wisdom"

could either of you expand a bit?


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thogey
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USA
1617 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2010 :  21:06:30  Show Profile Send thogey a Private Message
Did sin exist before man?

Or would sin exist without man? Without someone to exercise sin would there be none.

I know what Neckro means

I'm just just trying a twist on his comment.

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Nickelless
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USA
5580 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2010 :  21:07:12  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by thogey

A couple more.

I don't want to pay for HUD, mortgage reductions,WIC.
NPR or NEA.

Speaking of "alphabet soup," I wish we could stop paying for the D.C. SNAFU and FUBAR.


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Nickelless
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USA
5580 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2010 :  21:08:38  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by thogey

Did sin exist before man?

Or would sin exist without man? Without someone to exercise sin would there be none.

I know what Neckro means

I'm just just trying a twist on his comment.

Stay on topic, Thogey. You can start a new thread for this.


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thogey
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USA
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Posted - 06/14/2010 :  21:09:03  Show Profile Send thogey a Private Message
Or BOHICA!

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thogey
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USA
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Posted - 06/14/2010 :  21:11:47  Show Profile Send thogey a Private Message
Why did I get admonished?


I'm the only one on this thread that's staying on topic....Sir

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thogey
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USA
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Posted - 06/14/2010 :  21:15:26  Show Profile Send thogey a Private Message
I don't want to pay for minting pennies, or nickels.

Or Obama's salary!

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aloneibreak
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USA
672 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2010 :  21:17:28  Show Profile Send aloneibreak a Private Message
guess i was reading into it too much thogey...

anyways, where is the limit to how much we are forced to pay?

i really dont see an end in sight...


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fb101
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USA
2856 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2010 :  21:25:41  Show Profile Send fb101 a Private Message
I hate paying for everything that is no business of the gov't anyway.
that's an awful lot.

And I just spotted this;
Pelosi's New District Office Costs $18,736 a Month
(The most expensive of all)

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Edited by - fb101 on 06/14/2010 21:30:15
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thogey
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USA
1617 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2010 :  21:35:03  Show Profile Send thogey a Private Message
THE IRS!

That's the mother of all 'I don't want to pay for'

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Nickelless
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USA
5580 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2010 :  21:38:33  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
You must be logged in to see this link.


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silverhalide
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92 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2010 :  13:53:31  Show Profile Send silverhalide a Private Message
Social security (ponzi scheme ala creme) and health care is my biggest pet peeves in wasteful spending.

I really have major problems that force you to buy insurance that doesn't nearly pay the entire claim from a for profit corporation that operates in a grossly overpriced system in the first place.

Why does everyone think guns and hoarding is the answer? The military has technology to easily tame an unruly crowd and the government can claim to your hoard with an executive order. My efforts have changed on plans of moving out of the country.
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Neckro
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Saudi Arabia
2080 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2010 :  14:02:23  Show Profile  Send Neckro an AOL message  Click to see Neckro's MSN Messenger address  Send Neckro a Yahoo! Message Send Neckro a Private Message
How about unjust wars, and funding terrorist groups that overthrow governments that don't agree to follow US laws.

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Nickelless
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USA
5580 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2010 :  15:51:16  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by silverhalide

Why does everyone think guns and hoarding is the answer? The military has technology to easily tame an unruly crowd and the government can claim to your hoard with an executive order. My efforts have changed on plans of moving out of the country.

The feds have to find our hoard first. I'm not about to roll over and cower at the feet of a bloated, incompetent tyranny in the making. Did our forefathers do that 250 years ago??

I understand your point, but I choose not to live in fear. I choose to become self-sufficient and stand against tyranny when it comes.


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NotABigDeal
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USA
3890 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2010 :  17:25:48  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by silverhalide

Social security (ponzi scheme ala creme) and health care is my biggest pet peeves in wasteful spending.

I really have major problems that force you to buy insurance that doesn't nearly pay the entire claim from a for profit corporation that operates in a grossly overpriced system in the first place.

Why does everyone think guns and hoarding is the answer? The military has technology to easily tame an unruly crowd and the government can claim to your hoard with an executive order. My efforts have changed on plans of moving out of the country.


Wouldn't you know it, I just sold all my metals and guns last night. I guess Uncle Sam just missed them....

Deal

Live free or die.
Plain and simple.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
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Nickelless
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USA
5580 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2010 :  17:43:58  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by NotABigDeal

quote:
Originally posted by silverhalide

Social security (ponzi scheme ala creme) and health care is my biggest pet peeves in wasteful spending.

I really have major problems that force you to buy insurance that doesn't nearly pay the entire claim from a for profit corporation that operates in a grossly overpriced system in the first place.

Why does everyone think guns and hoarding is the answer? The military has technology to easily tame an unruly crowd and the government can claim to your hoard with an executive order. My efforts have changed on plans of moving out of the country.


Wouldn't you know it, I just sold all my metals and guns last night. I guess Uncle Sam just missed them....

Deal

I'm happy I was able to buy them from you, Deal!


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beauanderos
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USA
2408 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2010 :  17:51:46  Show Profile Send beauanderos a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by thogey

Back on topic:
I don't want to pay for.
Anyone's pregnancy termination.
Uneducated illiterate single women with 5 kids by 4 different men.
Most foreign aid (including Israel, Bluegill)
For trying to keep old people alive forever (I'm willing to die of an old age infirmity)
Wildlife preservation programs.
Most public education, a little aid is OK not full blown entitlement.
No college for any one. Snot nose college boys can work their own way through it.
Lawns on any military base.
AIDS Research. (a 100 percent preventable disease)
Pre-school daycare or school lunches. People can take care of their own kids (Handicapped and extreme circumstances excluded)
Wetlands preservation (tax credits) NDFARMER probably know what I'm talking about.
Peoples alcohol and drug rehab.
Keeping people on death row alive.
Social security(I don't expect to be a recipient)
Most of the gov buildings in DC.
Public housing.
Saving Darfur
Pull out of Iraq Today (the job is done, let those a$$holes kill each other, we can't stop them anyway. All they understand is an iron fisted dictatorship.)
The Census

Foreign languages on gov documents.

All church tax exemptions. (they have a nice cash business don't they)
There's more coming.

Hey, I resent that

Hoard now and hold on!

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silverhalide
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Posted - 06/16/2010 :  08:40:40  Show Profile Send silverhalide a Private Message
Hope you read your Boston's Gun Bible well. I probably will have my stash on the market and rural abode on the market within a year.
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Nickelless
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USA
5580 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2010 :  09:55:25  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by silverhalide

I probably will have my stash on the market and rural abode on the market within a year.

Are you planning to move to the big city and live on fiat??


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