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fiatboy
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Posted - 12/26/2007 : 18:30:29
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Do you all sort your Canadian cents? And if so, how do you do it? My Canadian cents are still unsorted, and I'm trying to figure out how to sort them. I ask because there have been more alloy variations with Canadian cents than with U.S. cents.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but here are the variations as best I could figure:
2000–present: 2.35 g 19.05 mm 94% steel, 1.5% nickel, 4.5% copper plated zinc
1997–1999: 2.25 g 19.05 mm 98.4% zinc, 1.6% copper plating
1982–1996: 2.5 g 19.1 mm, 12-sided 98% copper, 1.75% tin, 0.25% zinc
1980–1981: 2.8 g 19.0 mm 98% copper, 1.75% tin, 0.25% zinc
1978–1979: 3.24 g 19.05 mm 98% copper, 1.75% tin, 0.25% zinc
1942–1977: 3.24 g 19.05 mm 98% copper, 0.5% tin, 1.5% zinc
1920–1941: 3.24 g 19.05 mm 95.5% copper, 3% tin, 1.5% zinc
I'll probably just sort the pre-'97s, but I'm curious what others are doing.
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fiatboy
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Posted - 12/26/2007 : 18:45:55
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It just occured to me that, as regards the intrinsic metal value of pre-'97s, there can be a variation of almost half a cent. For example, compare a 1977 cent at $0.0215181 to a 1996 cent at $0.0165293. That's a difference of $0.0049888---almost half a penny. A roll of each kind would yield a difference of $0.24944---almost a quarter! That difference could add up quickly in larger quantities.
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coincollector101
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Posted - 12/26/2007 : 19:53:34
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Hey FiatBoy,
Our Reydale's sort nickels!!
Lol
Happy sorting, CC |
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fiatboy
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Posted - 12/26/2007 : 20:28:21
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quote: Our Reydale's sort nickels!!
I know. They're amazing machines. 
But tell me, cc101, how do you sort your Canadian pennies? And don't try to dodge the question. I know you've found a few! |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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Posted - 12/26/2007 : 20:52:56
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Hey, we even get a few of them occasionally down here in California. Last night I got 2 of them out of 250 rolls. Here is how I sorted them. I put the king in a stack by itself and I put the queen in a stack by itself.. LOL.
Actually, I don't bother to sort them, I just toss all the Canadians in the Canadian box for sorting later.. when I run out of pennies to sort. When I do get around to sorting them I will probably just set up a bunch of tubes and sort them by year by hand. |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
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Robarons
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Posted - 12/26/2007 : 21:31:18
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A good topic indeed!
Here in Michigan I get about 2-3% in Candian pennies. Dimes,nickels and quarters are common here and can be used in place of US coinage with no fuss. I divide my pennies by:
Canadian up to 79' 600 so far Can. 80-96 650 so far Can. 97-current 230 so far
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c140cessna
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Posted - 12/27/2007 : 00:56:48
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Ryedale Machine Users - Sorting out the Canadians from US;
Firstly, I do not bother to sort the Can from the US....and I live in MI and experience about 3% Canadian in my US coppers.
But....if you wanted to give it a reasonable try with the Ryedale: I've had my best luck by using a US copper standard on high (a least 50% sensitivity...probably more like 70%)...rerun your coppers and this should pull out most of the Canadians.
I also hoard Canadian Copper - I go to Canada to get it....I've done many studies, and on a mixed average, there are 164 copper Canadian coins per pound. But, you are correct, if you get a bunch of 2.5g CanCu....it is expensive to make a pound! |
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horgad
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Posted - 12/27/2007 : 16:09:38
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| My Canadians go into two piles: pre 1997 and post 1996. The post 1996 ones get returned to the bank mixed in with my US zincs. I figure when the time comes I will sell the other pile as 98% copper by weight. I should probably pull out the kings, but I don't even know if they are worth anything. Anybody know? |
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El Dee
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Posted - 12/27/2007 : 16:39:54
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I do the same, pre 97 and post 96, the posts going back in.
My guess is that the kings are equivalent to our Wheaties.
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cyberdan
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Posted - 12/27/2007 : 18:21:38
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I am in SoCA and I get more canadians cents than wheats.
If my ryedale throws them in the copper box then that is where they stay. I figuer they have enough copper in them to hoard as copper cents. |
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fiatboy
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Posted - 12/30/2007 : 00:37:43
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| Thanks for the input everyone. Good food for thought. I think I'm going to sort my Canadians into pre-97 and post-96. If I ever run out of pennies to sort and the banks are closed and I need a copper fix, I'll probably end up sorting down the pre-97s. |
"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson |
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