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fiatboy
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912 Posts

Posted - 12/26/2007 :  18:30:29  Show Profile Send fiatboy a Private Message
Do you all sort your Canadian cents? And if so, how do you do it? My Canadian cents are still unsorted, and I'm trying to figure out how to sort them. I ask because there have been more alloy variations with Canadian cents than with U.S. cents.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but here are the variations as best I could figure:

2000–present:
2.35 g
19.05 mm
94% steel, 1.5% nickel, 4.5% copper plated zinc

1997–1999:
2.25 g
19.05 mm
98.4% zinc, 1.6% copper plating

1982–1996:
2.5 g
19.1 mm, 12-sided
98% copper, 1.75% tin, 0.25% zinc

1980–1981:
2.8 g
19.0 mm
98% copper, 1.75% tin, 0.25% zinc

1978–1979:
3.24 g
19.05 mm
98% copper, 1.75% tin, 0.25% zinc

1942–1977:
3.24 g
19.05 mm
98% copper, 0.5% tin, 1.5% zinc

1920–1941:
3.24 g
19.05 mm
95.5% copper, 3% tin, 1.5% zinc

I'll probably just sort the pre-'97s, but I'm curious what others are doing.

"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson

fiatboy
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912 Posts

Posted - 12/26/2007 :  18:45:55  Show Profile Send fiatboy a Private Message
It just occured to me that, as regards the intrinsic metal value of pre-'97s, there can be a variation of almost half a cent. For example, compare a 1977 cent at $0.0215181 to a 1996 cent at $0.0165293. That's a difference of $0.0049888---almost half a penny. A roll of each kind would yield a difference of $0.24944---almost a quarter! That difference could add up quickly in larger quantities.

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"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson
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coincollector101
Penny Sorter Member



86 Posts

Posted - 12/26/2007 :  19:53:34  Show Profile Send coincollector101 a Private Message
Hey FiatBoy,

Our Reydale's sort nickels!!

Lol

Happy sorting,
CC
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fiatboy
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912 Posts

Posted - 12/26/2007 :  20:28:21  Show Profile Send fiatboy a Private Message
quote:
Our Reydale's sort nickels!!

I know. They're amazing machines.

But tell me, cc101, how do you sort your Canadian pennies? And don't try to dodge the question. I know you've found a few!

"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 12/26/2007 :  20:52:56  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
Hey, we even get a few of them occasionally down here in California. Last night I got 2 of them out of 250 rolls. Here is how I sorted them. I put the king in a stack by itself and I put the queen in a stack by itself.. LOL.

Actually, I don't bother to sort them, I just toss all the Canadians in the Canadian box for sorting later.. when I run out of pennies to sort. When I do get around to sorting them I will probably just set up a bunch of tubes and sort them by year by hand.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

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Robarons
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
522 Posts

Posted - 12/26/2007 :  21:31:18  Show Profile Send Robarons a Private Message
A good topic indeed!

Here in Michigan I get about 2-3% in Candian pennies. Dimes,nickels and quarters are common here and can be used in place of US coinage with no fuss. I divide my pennies by:

Canadian up to 79' 600 so far
Can. 80-96 650 so far
Can. 97-current 230 so far

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c140cessna
Penny Collector Member



USA
419 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2007 :  00:56:48  Show Profile Send c140cessna a Private Message
Ryedale Machine Users - Sorting out the Canadians from US;

Firstly, I do not bother to sort the Can from the US....and I live in MI and experience about 3% Canadian in my US coppers.

But....if you wanted to give it a reasonable try with the Ryedale: I've had my best luck by using a US copper standard on high (a least 50% sensitivity...probably more like 70%)...rerun your coppers and this should pull out most of the Canadians.

I also hoard Canadian Copper - I go to Canada to get it....I've done many studies, and on a mixed average, there are 164 copper Canadian coins per pound. But, you are correct, if you get a bunch of 2.5g CanCu....it is expensive to make a pound!
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1641 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2007 :  16:09:38  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
My Canadians go into two piles: pre 1997 and post 1996. The post 1996 ones get returned to the bank mixed in with my US zincs. I figure when the time comes I will sell the other pile as 98% copper by weight. I should probably pull out the kings, but I don't even know if they are worth anything. Anybody know?
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El Dee
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
547 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2007 :  16:39:54  Show Profile Send El Dee a Private Message
I do the same, pre 97 and post 96, the posts going back in.

My guess is that the kings are equivalent to our Wheaties.

Trust the government? Ask an Indian.
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cyberdan
Penny Collector Member



USA
289 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2007 :  18:21:38  Show Profile Send cyberdan a Private Message
I am in SoCA and I get more canadians cents than wheats.

If my ryedale throws them in the copper box then that is where they stay. I figuer they have enough copper in them to hoard as copper cents.

Edited by - cyberdan on 12/27/2007 18:22:10
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fiatboy
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912 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2007 :  00:37:43  Show Profile Send fiatboy a Private Message
Thanks for the input everyone. Good food for thought. I think I'm going to sort my Canadians into pre-97 and post-96. If I ever run out of pennies to sort and the banks are closed and I need a copper fix, I'll probably end up sorting down the pre-97s.

"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson
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