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redneck
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 Posted - 06/04/2010 : 09:10:24
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Dire Predications
Unfortunately, this guy has been fairly accurate...
The Goldsmiths—Part CXLIV
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The United States very soon will be facing a far more precarious and frightening situation than anything seen in Greece, Spain or Britain. We face the greatest collapse in recorded history. And when it happens, Rothschild Cabal bosses still in the US (though many will start fleeing to a place of safety where they enjoy dual citizenship) and their puppet US politicians will look at any and all possibilities of raising needed funds to pay off some of the pressing foreign debts.
I am assured in my mind that this gang of thieves will not hesitate one minute to order a confiscation of gold and possibly even silver. And this won’t be the last option. No, they’ll go after the gold and probably silver first and long before they start selling US aircraft carriers and submarines.
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AGCoinHunter
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USA
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Posted - 06/04/2010 : 09:25:49
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| Gold and silver might be harder to get from the population than savings. IRA's and retirement savings will be the first to be raided. These are all known by the IRS and seizing these funds will be a lot easier. Of course it will be done under the guise that an individual can’t make informed decisions and are becoming a liability to the collective as a whole. Monies will be funneled into worthless RSA's backed by worthless government treasuries. Believe it, its coming. |
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cptindy
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Posted - 06/04/2010 : 14:26:16
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I have thought before about this topic and feel the same as AGCoinHunter. IRA and Pensions will be where the government goes next. It is all readily available for a 2 big 2 fail scenario or some gimmick like that.
A take over for the benefit of America.
I don't think that there really is all that much gold in the hands of citizens like there would have been in the 30's. Most of the gold has been boondoggled out of the US as it is.
That plan has already been accomplished. |
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Lemon Thrower
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USA
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 Posted - 06/04/2010 : 15:50:32
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there will also be a VAT.
a massive devaluation of the dollar vs gold is more likely than outright confiscation.
i think FDR did it less to make a profit than to avoid the iniquity of the situation. back then, gold was more widely held because it was legal tender. |
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redneck
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Posted - 06/04/2010 : 16:11:29
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I agree that they will go after the IRA's and retirement savings first as I have posted a couple threads on that subject before.
However, if our (when our) economy crashes, gold and silver will reflect
how worthless our currency is at that time. If some other country decides to use a gold standard it will further decrease the dollars value. In order to prevent that they may try and reestablish our own gold standard or use gold to pay down the debt. Seeing that there is probably no gold in Fort Knox, they will turn to the people. At the very least, they'll tax it heavily.
After all, Peter Schiff is predicting $5000 - $10,000 gold in the next few years.
But.
We'll have to wait and see on that one.
In the mean time though.
There are many other interesting observations in the article to think about.
As in energy and the future of offshore drilling.
The total impact of the oil spill has yet to be realized...
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Bluegill
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Posted - 06/05/2010 : 00:35:03
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Although definitely within the realm of possibility, I don't see physical confiscation of PM's as something to get too worried about, so far. I do see PM's getting R' & R'ed. Registered and Regulated. That way they can tax the living snot out of them.
I definitely see a VAT coming, and/or as Portugal recently unveiled, a "crisis tax".
As long as the Rotschild's and Bilderburg's are running the worlds central banks, I don't see any country going back to a gold standard. There will always be some fiat mandated as legal tender.
Once they nationalize the IRA's and pensions, saving accounts will be next. Wait until the government deems too many people have too much money saved.
They have a number of different ways to get the sheep to agree and submit to that one...
They'll use "patriot duty", the "drug war", "terrorism", not paying your "fair share", "evil rich people", "national security", "public safety", "for the children" the money needs to be spent for the "greater good" or to "recover the economy", blah, blah, blah. Whatever works with the sheep.
Then they will start garnishing paychecks, using some number they conjure up as being your "fair share". Confiscating anything above that number. Using the same aforementioned criteria.
And the sheep will submit...
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fb101
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Posted - 06/05/2010 : 08:19:22
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Originally posted by Bluegill
Although definitely within the realm of possibility, I don't see physical confiscation of PM's as something to get too worried about, so far. I do see PM's getting R' & R'ed. Registered and Regulated. That way they can tax the living snot out of them.
And the sheep will submit...
Yes. There isn't enough physical gold and silver to make a difference in this scenario.
And the alternative to submission is.....? |
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Bluegill
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Posted - 06/05/2010 : 11:00:52
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Originally posted by Bluegill
Although definitely within the realm of possibility, I don't see physical confiscation of PM's as something to get too worried about, so far. I do see PM's getting R' & R'ed. Registered and Regulated. That way they can tax the living snot out of them.
And the sheep will submit...
Yes. There isn't enough physical gold and silver to make a difference in this scenario.
And the alternative to submission is.....?
We all know the answer to that one. Question is, do "we the people" have the balls to do it..? I would bet the farm that the answer is no.
Our destiny has been decided. "We the people" are going to get economically and financially sodomized. Just get comfortable with the fact. Like it or not, we are going to like it.
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cptindy
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Posted - 06/05/2010 : 20:44:27
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The acquisition of public works as I was reading is quite a reality as well. It has been practiced here already if I remember correctly with ball parks and such. Namely the Texas incident involving the last Prez GW. I also can see the VAT taxes and a gold and silver tax.
Tolls and taxes will be a huge application used in the very near future.
I don't know if I believe that a gold backed or a commodity basket backed currency is out of the question on a global scale involving SDR's. The concept has been in the works for at least 60 years if I remember correctly and I don't see them giving up on that idea.
I feel a setup, then, to a rescue scenario in the works!
After a massive grab for infrastructure takes place.
Anyway it unfolds the GOV will get their share, Or else!
And yes we will be doing it for the "good" of the USA!
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