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beauanderos
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beauanderos
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misteroman
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Posted - 05/30/2010 : 14:52:53
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| surprised it took this long for someone to do it. bet that guy is getting scores og emails from people trying to buy thousands of them as well |
Buying CU cents!!!! Paying 1.2 unlimited amounts wanted. Can pick up if near Ohio area. |
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Beau
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Posted - 05/30/2010 : 16:47:45
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misteroman, I agree with all the con men out there selling for the real thing.
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wolvesdad
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Posted - 05/31/2010 : 08:47:01
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Hey, at least the thing is marked for what it is, even says "COPY" on the shield on the reverse of the Silver Eagle.
What I fear moreso is clever copies out of China that suppose to be .999 solid and pure, but are plated/clad/etc. |
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battlecat
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Posted - 05/31/2010 : 08:59:42
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quote: Originally posted by wolvesdad
Hey, at least the thing is marked for what it is, even says "COPY" on the shield on the reverse of the Silver Eagle.
What I fear moreso is clever copies out of China that suppose to be .999 solid and pure, but are plated/clad/etc.
Your correct, Ive also heard of bars and rounds comming out of china the same way, key date morgans etc. Im not sure how you would get around this |
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L1011
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Posted - 05/31/2010 : 12:03:08
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| I understand where the OP is coming from, at least the auction item is clearly marked and the coin too, as mentioned, it's the ones that aren't marked and are produced to scam the buyer, those are the real problem |
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rexmerdinus
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Posted - 06/01/2010 : 00:22:10
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quote: Your correct, Ive also heard of bars and rounds comming out of china the same way, key date morgans etc. Im not sure how you would get around this
On a sort-of related note, I bought a handful of VERY obviously faked trade dollars a few years ago in Manila as a curiosity. With the exchange rate at the time I basically got them for face value, especially after I told the urchin how I knew they were fakes. He got to sell his stuff and I got a few interesting counterfeits, so I think we actually both walked away happy from the deal! Poor quality metal, incorrect or lightly struck devices, and some of them even had identical die cracks! They did actually show some age, though, in the form of dirt/tarnish/patina and what appeared to be genuine circulation-wear (which of course could have easily have been produced by running a bunch of them through an industrial washing machine or, perhaps more practically in the third-world country, inside the tires of a taxi cab or something)
Getting back to the point, as most of us probably know, con-artists and counterfeiters are not a new phenomenon. I did a little research when I got back home, and found that my particular scores had most likely come from China, having been produced (if I recall correctly) around the 1920's or 1930's. Trade dollars were particularly susceptible to Chinese fakery even back then because they were originally produced to trade with China. As a side note, I also learned that genuine trade dollars that have traded in China almost always bear some type of Chinese-character counterstamp of the name of the merchant or banker through whose hands they passed.
Ebay's policy is to shut sellers down and possibly turn them over to authorities if they are found to be peddling fakes as genuine (i.e., with no "COPY" counterstamp, or with false claims to authenticity in the listing), but on legit auctions of reproductions the uninformed buyer is still susceptible to being duped by assuming they're buying a solid silver coin. There's really not much that can be done (nor, perhaps, should there be in a free market) to protect people from their own lack of knowledge and from sellers who legally (though immorally) take advantage of them. |
Edited by - rexmerdinus on 06/01/2010 00:23:22 |
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PreservingThePast
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