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Originally posted by Bluegill

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Originally posted by thogey

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Originally posted by thogey

Seriously,

Without oil/gas/electricity we die.

Water wells don't pump, generators don't generate.

In my business I go through lots of 2-cycle oil. I buy it at garage sales, flea markets wherever I can. It stores well. Its starting to get expensive again.

Thogey's recommendation: Go long on 2-cycle oil.

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I have to wholeheartedly disagree. I go camping every year. It is rustic camping. No pansy sissy $150k RV's with big screen TV's and the such. But tents, campfires and NO electricity and a hand pump for the well. You're ruffin' it.

With a rifle/shotgun to hunt and a fishing pole. I can survive indefinitely with out oil/gas/electricity.

All through the ages humanity survived by living near water or using wells pumped by hand or windmill. If one is near clean water, one can boil it and have potable water and not even need the well. Nothing has changed in that department...

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You need to retink this. Your shotgun shells,
plastic(petroleum). You're nylon monofiliment; petroleum.
Where are you going to get supplies ie gun powder/grease etc.

You might live for a while. But yes I am being literal, like it or not we are wrapped around oil.

I don't think you're a wimp, neither am I. Trust me, I have survival skills. Uncle Sam put me through hell to prove it. But one thing everyone should undrestand: in the absence of petroleum products It's worse than Mad Max.

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I don't know, how did homo sapien survive and flourish for 10,000 years before electricity and oil? There are still places on this planet where people are living with out oil and electricity. Not to mention the Amish.

I can make black powder, I can melt lead ammo, I can trap, etc, etc... I can do most anything humans did in Colonial times for them to survive reasonably comfortable and safe.

I do agree that if it were suddenly cut off most spoiled weak humans would end up in a Mad Max scenario. But I would choose not to be one of them.

To make a blanket statement that humanity would die when the oil and electricity got shut off is just not true.

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Originally posted by Dalsuh

Even during a crisis people will still need socks and underwear imo. Maybe feminine hygiene products also.

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Even during a crisis people will still need socks and underwear imo. Maybe feminine hygiene products also.

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Thogey, better stock up while they're still cheap On a more serious note, I agree with Bluegill that adaptable skilled individuals with survivalist supplies/skills can no doubt ride the down side of peak oil well into the future. However, most people don't fall into that category, and even simple transportation will someday become a problem, limiting our foodstuffs and all manner of petroleum-based products... which is about 95% of what we use. Spoiled people? Definitely. And most likely, predestined to a bad end, if we ever do run desperately low on oil. It amazes me how few people recognize that a major problem is impending. Time to go watch Crash Course again, and pass it along to a friend that will pay attention.

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