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Roberto
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USA
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Posted - 03/31/2010 :  21:01:52  Show Profile Send Roberto a Private Message
Hey All:

Any one ever hear of anything like this?

On a lark, I went into a pawnshop and inquired about "free 1st loan". They said they would loan 25% of value for up to 30 days for no fee. OK, sounds interesting, would they loan on silver bullion coins?

ANSWER: NO, "silver isn't worth much" and "no pawn shop makes loans on silver coins". I thought this woman's ignorance was only exceeded by her rudeness. So I went to another store and was told the same thing.

I protested that my coins are 90% silver, and you can look up their value on a million different websites. To no avail, I protested that they won't loan $1000 on $5000 of bullion coins. NOPE, not even interested.

Maybe they knew I wasn't serious about getting a loan, but it was interesting to find out.

If I were a pawnshop owner, I would make 25-50% loans on "junk" silver coins all day and all night.


Roberto

slickeast
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USA
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Posted - 03/31/2010 :  21:10:53  Show Profile Send slickeast a Private Message
That is interesting. I can't wait to hear what others think the reason is.

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slickeast
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USA
2533 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2010 :  21:14:08  Show Profile Send slickeast a Private Message
At the currant rate. they would be loaning at 3.15X face.

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Country
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USA
3121 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2010 :  21:37:59  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
WELCOME to RealCent!!

It could be the pawn shop owners thought the SILVER was stolen and didn't want to get involved. Maybe the word is out to stay away from SILVER coins.

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Be Nice to BankTellers
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USA
77 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2010 :  22:07:27  Show Profile Send Be Nice to BankTellers a Private Message
Offer them a cut for the referral to pay people in cash.

Give me a cut for mentioning it.

Grandpa always told me, "Back in 1964..." I listened.

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highroller4321
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USA
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Posted - 03/31/2010 :  22:25:44  Show Profile Send highroller4321 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Be Nice to BankTellers

Offer them a cut for the referral to pay people in cash.

Give me a cut for mentioning it.



Same thought I had!!

Tell them you will pay them 4x face for 90% so they should be 2-3x.

Of course they wont do this....but its worth a shot.

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NotABigDeal
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USA
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Posted - 04/01/2010 :  05:59:22  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message
My buddy runs a pawn shop. I'll ask him today if he takes junk silver if I remember to call him, hehe.

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DanRiverMan
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USA
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Posted - 04/01/2010 :  07:12:21  Show Profile Send DanRiverMan a Private Message
They are greedy, they have Gold to far up there butts..Not enough profit in Silver..
A local jewery store here where I live, small town about 50k, runs weekly ads for buying Us silver coins at 10x face for 90% and $3.50 per $1 face of 40% and even buy war nickels lol..

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fb101
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USA
2856 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2010 :  19:46:26  Show Profile Send fb101 a Private Message
$3.50 per $1 face of 40% is a good price compared to what they give where I am. They're offering less than $30 a roll. I think melt is around $54.


Edited by - fb101 on 04/01/2010 19:48:58
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wagsthadog
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
565 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2010 :  20:38:39  Show Profile Send wagsthadog a Private Message
Hi there-

Why mess around with a pawn shop when there are 4,000,000,000,000,000,000 ads on the tv, internet, and newspaper that will ALL give you top dollar for your unwanted gold and silver? : P

JMO, but I'm kind of spooked about pawning my coins or jewelry. I worry about something happening to it or it having a big SCRATCH or something on it that wasn't there before. If I buy, I buy to keep. If I need the money, I sell. Don't look back.

wags

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 04/01/2010 :  22:36:41  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
Maybe you should BUY silver coins there.. since they aren't worth much.

Wags.. only pawn your prescratched silver.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

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Roberto
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USA
9 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2010 :  23:19:52  Show Profile Send Roberto a Private Message
Hey all:

I am surprised that this thread has gotten this much interest and attention...

I din't get the impression that the pawn shop operators thought that the coins were stolen or "hot" or "fishy". I am usually in a fairly presentable state and hope that I would not be confused for a criminal.

The first pawn shop that I went to I was talking with a young kid behind the counter, maybe 19 or 20. He was "respectful" but stated that he could not work with silver. A moment later a foul, female manager shuffled up to the counter and asked why I was fooling around with silver. I replied that I thought it was a better value than gold. She then stated that "silver ain't worth nuttin"...I asked her to clarify what she said. She replied that silver had gone down in price and was not worth the time & hassle. I stated that I thought it was about $17/oz. I have the AMPEX app on my Iphone and showed her that "spot" silver was trading at $17.32/oz. on NYMEX.

She responded that she didn't believe that...I didn't know what to say. She then said she had a bunch of silver coins that "ain't hardly worth nuttin". I then started to smile and said that I must be quite gullible as I had purchased quite a few. I then said that I would be happy to give her some money for her coins, and she can get out of a bad situation.

I think the young clerk then realized what was going on he started laughing. The female clerk then stated that "your kind shouldn't be coming in here". What is my kind? White male in his 30's? She said no, "silver smart asses". I replied "don't worry, I won't be back!".

I guess that pawnshops prey on gullible/ignorant people.

I was just interested in their "1st loan free", as I might have needed to raise a LARGE amount of capital for about 10 days. I figured that pawning silver might be a way to go, as I did not want to sell my silver, and I would be turning over the money in about a week. (I was bidding on a large estate of gold & silver bullion coins with some small amount of numismatic coins).

It turns out that I did not win the bid on the estate.

Roberto
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Mmotodad
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USA
7 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2010 :  21:27:16  Show Profile Send Mmotodad a Private Message
New member here....been meaning to register for sometime, this thread got me around to doing it. I am a frequent visitor to the local pawn shop. Most of the ones around here will pretty much take anything of value including junk silver coins. I have purchased many coins from them over the years. Never pawned or sold anything there but from what they have told me they basically pay about $8 for Morgan/Peace silver dollars and mark them $24.99. They will usually take any offer over $18 on them. I usually pass on those but I have picked up quite a few silver eagles. They mark the "loose" ones $24.99 but usually sell them for $20 and they mark the ones in fancy boxes $29.99 and take $25. Needless to say I don't buy the ones in boxes. Junk silver coins usually go for spot. Picked up some Franklin halves for $6 each a few weeks ago.
I have found that just like any business they have times where they are willing to make good deals (need to pay the bills) and times where they seem like they could care less to sell anything. Guess it depends on how much they are making on loans and how many folks actually pick their items up. I have been buying there for years and they know my face but not my name. People come in while I am there to pawn not buy and not only do they know their names, they know what item(s) are going to be pawned before they put it on the counter.

Jason

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silvercreek
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Posted - 04/16/2010 :  20:41:13  Show Profile Send silvercreek a Private Message
I guess that pawnshops prey on gullible/ignorant people.

bingo!!!
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2010 :  23:34:54  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by silvercreek

I guess that pawnshops prey on gullible/ignorant people.

bingo!!!


Why should banks have a monopoly on that?

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

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kentucky7887
Penny Sorter Member



USA
30 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2010 :  20:09:29  Show Profile Send kentucky7887 a Private Message
I work a a pawn shop and the reason is because of the low oz value. When someone brings in a gold chain and you offer them 50% or less of the scrap value they get mad at you. Lets say a 10g 14k gold chain would scrap for around 200. Alot of the pawnshops sell their used gold very near scrap. That same chain from the mall would cost almost 400. I hear people all the time say. " I paid 400 for this chain and u want to give me 50?" They don't under stand scrap value and free markets at all. So take a big silver chain (or coins for instance) that they paid 100, for and the scrap value is 20, when you tell them you can loan or buy it for 5 dollars they get really mad! Though most places will take it if you have a lot maybe 50oz or more. OR think of a small crappy ring that maybe weighs 1g, it scraps for what .50c a gram and you offer them .25c they will cuss at you all day long.
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kentucky7887
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USA
30 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2010 :  20:11:44  Show Profile Send kentucky7887 a Private Message
may people who relay on pawning as part of their financial needs are not the brightest pennies in the jar
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kentucky7887
Penny Sorter Member



USA
30 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2010 :  20:16:23  Show Profile Send kentucky7887 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by wagsthadog

Hi there-

Why mess around with a pawn shop when there are 4,000,000,000,000,000,000 ads on the tv, internet, and newspaper that will ALL give you top dollar for your unwanted gold and silver? : P

JMO, but I'm kind of spooked about pawning my coins or jewelry. I worry about something happening to it or it having a big SCRATCH or something on it that wasn't there before. If I buy, I buy to keep. If I need the money, I sell. Don't look back.

wags



Its actually very safe just make sure you go to a larger store. The chain stores are reliable. You have to think of it this way they are large publicly traded companies your .25ct diamond or gold coin is not worth a law suit.

I've been doing it for almost 6yrs and 1 time a repaired rope chain got misplaced. The store gave the customer a bigger one in return so they were happy.

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Ardent Listener
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USA
4841 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2010 :  20:21:24  Show Profile Send Ardent Listener a Private Message
Pawing can be much more respectable than some of the other payday check cashing loan scams out there. Many pawn shops want to be able to resell defaulted pawned goods at their own shop. Let's face it, more people will come in looking for gold chains to buy than 90% silver coins. That's not to say there aren't good pawn shops who would welcome 90% though.

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L1011
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Posted - 04/18/2010 :  20:34:42  Show Profile Send L1011 a Private Message
Sounds very ignorant to me, did she have all her teeth?

Edited by - L1011 on 04/18/2010 20:35:54
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