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 I might be missing 40%'s when edge sorting?
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searching4silver
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111 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2010 :  07:06:50  Show Profile Send searching4silver a Private Message
I search at least 2 boxes of havles per week and i can run through a box in about 15-20 minutes while standing over the coin counting machine. But last night I went through a box and found 2 40% and 1 90% Franklin. I noticed on the edge of the 2 40% halves that you could still see a layer of copper. I am wondering how easy it is to miss 40% and how many I have missed over the $50,000 I searched over the past year?

Any thoughts on this?

Advice on technique?

AFModell
Penny Sorter Member



USA
82 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2010 :  07:30:50  Show Profile Send AFModell a Private Message
Its quite easily. Usually the silver band stands out nicely, but always. Unless you are date searching you will miss a few 40% every now and then. Its the price paid for expediency. If you have the time I would date search them, but if not, edge searchign probably gives you 90% of the 40%ers. Good luck.

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gothboi30
Penny Collector Member



USA
286 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2010 :  11:14:12  Show Profile Send gothboi30 a Private Message
My .02 is that if you're even remotely serious about finding silver, you will ALWAYS take the time to date search....ALWAYS. The only coins I bother edge searching are dimes and quarters; my halves are ALWAYS date searched (NO EXCEPTIONS!!!).
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oober
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1304 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2010 :  12:02:18  Show Profile Send oober a Private Message
Use a desk lamp and position about 4 in above your rolls, even heavily tarnished 40%ers will be discernable. I would recommend doing this on a black surface(I use black craft foam 12 x 18 sheets) also, any extra light will be absorbed to make it easier on the eyes...


I never miss this way side searching halves. Yes I have tested this by date checking after I had side searched.
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JustSayNoToFiat
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110 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2010 :  12:49:38  Show Profile Send JustSayNoToFiat a Private Message
Date sorting doesn't take that much longer, IMO. I do both.

I have a couple 1968's in my horde that look exactly like a non-AG clad on the side.

I still had to throw it against the desk to be sure it was Ag.

It's Half Time...all the time.
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fb101
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USA
2856 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2010 :  18:57:12  Show Profile Send fb101 a Private Message
It's better to date search, but seriously, I expect not more than 1 or 2 in 100 40% silvers gets away of you're using a nice bright light.

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dakota1955
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Posted - 01/27/2010 :  19:28:32  Show Profile  Send dakota1955 a Yahoo! Message Send dakota1955 a Private Message
I dump them on the table and the silver one jump out at you. Then I look at there sides to see if I missed any.
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NDFARMER
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USA
1197 Posts

Posted - 01/28/2010 :  00:33:27  Show Profile Send NDFARMER a Private Message
I was just edge sorting but then I noticed I was missing some. Some of the 40%ers are hard to see. So now I check all the dates. It doesn't take that much longer.

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knibloe
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USA
1066 Posts

Posted - 01/28/2010 :  07:02:01  Show Profile Send knibloe a Private Message
I edge sort and won't go back to date sorting. I open a roll, look at the edges, and run the coins back and forth in my hads a few times. If I missed one on the edge sort, I usually find it with the sound.

I know that I am missing some 87's, but I generally pick the better ones out, because I pull out any coin with an shiny edge.
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AandEAGHOARDER
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USA
8 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2010 :  11:46:40  Show Profile  Send AandEAGHOARDER a Yahoo! Message Send AandEAGHOARDER a Private Message
Interesting, I didn't realize that the edges on the 40% halves could have a copper band some of the time ... luckily there is still the sound!

You'll probably see me on A&E's Hoarders for silver hoarding someday.
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 01/30/2010 :  11:50:53  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
The 40%ers are silver clad. Sometimes they will fool you. You can fet most of them by edge sorting using a good light.. but date sorting will guarantee you capture them all. You will also find all the NIFC's.. Proofs, etc. by date sorting.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

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silvercopper
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USA
15 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2010 :  18:21:26  Show Profile Send silvercopper a Private Message
the 1971's are the ones that fool me. there is just something about them that make me check them for silver. there are so many of the 71's too. i guess since the mint only produced the 1970 in the mint sets i guess they were trying to make up for it in 71

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kirkland
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USA
0 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2010 :  18:23:43  Show Profile Send kirkland a Private Message
The 1970 halves were for mint sets and coin collecting purposes. If you find one in circulation, you should keep it because it is 40% silver and it is worth around $15.
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PreservingThePast
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USA
1572 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2010 :  18:26:29  Show Profile Send PreservingThePast a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by silvercopper

the 1971's are the ones that fool me. there is just something about them that make me check them for silver. there are so many of the 71's too. i guess since the mint only produced the 1970 in the mint sets i guess they were trying to make up for it in 71



Supposedly there were some 1971D and 1977D that were struck on silver blanks rather than the clad.

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PreservingThePast
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USA
1572 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2010 :  18:30:26  Show Profile Send PreservingThePast a Private Message
As most of you know I date search everything that I can get my hands on to search since I am looking for certain years for birth year and anniversary year coin projects.

However, I always take the coins out of the wrapper and do an edge search in the beginning just to see if anything jumps out at me. This is done under light and magnification to assist my vision problems.

In a recent search of some rolls of dimes, I actually found a silver dime by date that had not shown up using the edge searching method. Even after seeing the date I looked the edge over thoroughly and still could not tell that it was silver via that method.

Enjoy your coin searches, everyone.
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PreservingThePast
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USA
1572 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2010 :  18:35:19  Show Profile Send PreservingThePast a Private Message
Knowing that there have been errors with silver coins struck in non silver years using wrong blanks I sometimes look at some 1965 and 1966 dimes with an extra careful inspection.

Since there were the 40% halves minted in 1965 - 1970 I wonder if any dimes could have been misstruck as the coloring on some of the 1965 and 1966 dimes sure has a strange silverish look to them. They have a definite clad to the edge but the obverse or the reverse just has a different look on some of them.

Just wishful thinking I suppose.

Enjoy your coin searches, everyone.
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slickeast
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
2533 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2010 :  18:47:33  Show Profile Send slickeast a Private Message
I picked up a 40% at the bank once that had copper showing on the edge. The reeds were worn off and it looked like a clad. I still edge search the bags I get. I just take an extra glance at the ones with no reed.

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bankmining
Penny Pincher Member



USA
120 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2010 :  00:43:32  Show Profile Send bankmining a Private Message
I understand where Silvercopper is coming from. I've never found a silver that I thought was copper clad at first glance but have been fooled the other way around many times - thinking I had silver then turning out to be a 71 when date checking.
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JobIII
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1507 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2010 :  07:32:46  Show Profile Send JobIII a Private Message
I will edge sort and date check for halves. Dimes i find i have to look more closely, since i've found a number of them that look too similar to copper clad ones.

If you don't date sort you'll miss any non silver commemorative coins that make their way through the boxes and bags.

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Silverguy23
Penny Sorter Member



USA
62 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2010 :  20:29:38  Show Profile Send Silverguy23 a Private Message
Always Date Sort.... Always

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