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Bluegill
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Posted - 02/15/2010 :  18:11:26  Show Profile Send Bluegill a Private Message
Some Austrian Bronze






Admittedly, I know very litle about Austrian numismatic history, other than that the top row are Kreuzers, the bottom row are Hellers.

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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/15/2010 :  18:33:32  Show Profile Send uthminsta a Private Message
Those are great. I wish I had always kept all my world bronze. Over the years I have sold off significant chunks of my collection several times. It seems like I had one of those Kreuzers but never with that much bird detail. Beautiful bronze indeed!

AUSTRIA - Lotsa confusing, complicated coin history in that one word.
As for what is shown above, here's a simplified section of it.
upto 1857: 8 hellers = 4 pfennigs = 1 kreuzer. 60 kreuzers = 1 florin.
1857-1892: 100 kreuzers = 1 florin.
1892-1918: 100 heller = 1 corona.

Shown, top row: two specimens of 1 kreuzer, copper. They are KM2186 (small eagle, used until 1881) and KM2187 (large eagle, used 1885 and 1891 only). Bottom row, 1 heller, bronze until 1916, and 2 heller, bronze until 1915, then iron 1916-1918.

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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/16/2010 :  12:05:29  Show Profile Send uthminsta a Private Message
FIJI cent, bronze.

Fiji used the British LSD (pounds/shillings/pence) system until 1968, then adopted a decimal system starting in 1969. The cent shows a TANOA KAVA DISH*. These were bronze until 1987, and copper-plated zinc starting in 1990. Same timeline with the 2 cent, which shows a palm fan.
* All I can find about the tanoa kava dish is that it is used to make a kava drink which tastes something like chocolate milk. Anyone know more?

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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/17/2010 :  15:07:07  Show Profile Send uthminsta a Private Message
INDIAN PRINCELY STATES cash, copper
INDIA pice, bronze.


These two coins beg a question, don't they? I'll give you a minute. And the answer is yes, it does fit. But one was not made from the other; the tiny coin is copper and the larger holed coin is bronze. Seems like they could have saved a few bucks on the minting process if they had better communication, haha...
Anyway, I really like the reverse design on the pice. More India tomorrow.

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Bluegill
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Posted - 02/17/2010 :  16:36:27  Show Profile Send Bluegill a Private Message
While we're in India...

This one with some weird toning.



And one after independence...



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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/18/2010 :  16:19:46  Show Profile Send uthminsta a Private Message
INDIAN PRINCELY STATES - Baroda 1 paisa, copper.

Baroda's ruling line was descended from Damaji, a Maratha soldier, who received the title of "distinguished swordsman," hence the scimitar on most Barodan coins. Damaji's father was a cow herder - that's why there's a hoof in the center of the coin. I guess that was their version of the bald eagle. This type is from 1891-1893, and being from AH1949 makes this an 1892 specimen.
Thanks to RealCent member NiBullionCu for attributing this coin for me!

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Bluegill
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Posted - 02/18/2010 :  19:36:21  Show Profile Send Bluegill a Private Message
Found this in a penny roll today. If Google is correct, the Korean date 4294 makes it a 1961.




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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/19/2010 :  15:44:38  Show Profile Send uthminsta a Private Message
Bluegill, what you have there is another member of the KM1 club... this 10 HWAN was the first South Korean coinage, issued in 1959 and 1961.

And since we're in Asia, I've got another one from their neighbor.
JAPAN 10 Yen, bronze.

These have been used since 1951, and according to my book they were still bronze in 1995, when my book cuts off. Yes, for a guy who is really into world coinage, my books are hopelessly out of date. Oh, wait... my 21st century book lists them up to 2006 as still being bronze. Way to not cheap out, Japan!

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Bluegill
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Posted - 02/19/2010 :  19:04:32  Show Profile Send Bluegill a Private Message
Thanks for the info uthminsta.

Got 2 more from the "empire".






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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/21/2010 :  23:55:04  Show Profile Send uthminsta a Private Message
Been away from "THE thread" for a couple days, but now I'm back. I love working on this thread.
Back on February 8th, I posted an Australia decimal cent, and mentioned the 2 cent but wasn't able to find it. Here they are together, and now the possums are in a pack.


Think I already mentioned that these were both bronze from 1966-91, then were discontinued.

And I couldn't help it, but these next coins are copper-nickel which technically qualifies, but LOOK at 'em! Especially the 5 cent, which shows the short-beaked spiny ant-eater! The 10 cent (couldn't find one) depicts the superb lyre-bird, the 20 cent shows the duckbill platypus, and this particular 50 cent commemorates the 200th anniversary of English Lieutenant James Cook's Australian Voyage. Here you go. Just the 'purdy' side.

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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/22/2010 :  14:47:01  Show Profile Send uthminsta a Private Message
FRANCE, 18th and 19th century monetary systems...


Pretty much what the 2x2s say...
Monetary system evolution:
Until 1794: 3 deniers = 1 liard; 4 liards = 1 sol; 20 sols = 1 livre; 6 livres = 1 ecu; 4 ecus = 1 louis d'or
1794-2001: 100 centimes = 1 franc. Re-valued in 1960 at 1 franc = 1 new centime.
Starting 2002: 100 euro cents = 1 euro

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Bluegill
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Posted - 02/22/2010 :  19:31:32  Show Profile Send Bluegill a Private Message
This Sierra Leone is the size of a pre-decimal U.K. half penny.





This was the first year of their own coinage after gaining independence from the U.K. It replaced the British West African pound.

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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/23/2010 :  16:55:27  Show Profile Send uthminsta a Private Message
JORDAN 5 fils, bronze.

Don't know much about Jordan - except that it is the location of Edom and Moab from the time of Moses. Their first coinage was in 1949; the 1, 5, and 10 fils coins were bronze until discontinued in 1985 (1989 for 10 fils).

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Bluegill
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Posted - 02/23/2010 :  20:13:08  Show Profile Send Bluegill a Private Message
Probably my favorite Mexican coin. The `43 thru `74 20 Centavo. It weighs 9.9 grams, a ½ gram heavier than the ever popular pre-decimal U.K. Penny.



The series had 3 different reverses.



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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/23/2010 :  22:22:04  Show Profile Send uthminsta a Private Message
Very nice, Bluegill. Here's their little brother...

Bronze 1905-1949, brass from 1950-1973. I wish I had some of those 1955-59 fifty centavos.

And hey... we reached 4000 views! Holy cow!

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Bluegill
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Posted - 02/24/2010 :  18:49:25  Show Profile Send Bluegill a Private Message
I'm gonna sneak a little brass in here again...



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uthminsta
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Posted - 02/25/2010 :  00:14:48  Show Profile Send uthminsta a Private Message
Had a rather busy day today, getting acclimated at my BRAND NEW JOB. Woohoo!
This afternoon I had a couple hours open between my responsibilities, and stopped in at the coin shop. Dug into the world coin box and pulled out 85 coins, MANY of which were bronze coins of types which I did not already have. Gearing up for another big run of beautiful stuff... life is great today for so many reasons!

Alright Bluegill those India coins are definitely very fun. In my haul today I actually got 10 coins from India. Let's see...
2 paise (flowery shaped like your anna, CN)
3 paise (hexagon = fun! aluminum)
5 paise (squarish, CN)
10 paise (flowery, CN)
quarter anna (1908, bronze, very worn, actually round)
half anna (square, CN)
anna (square, bronze)
2 anna (square, CN)

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Edited by - uthminsta on 02/25/2010 16:39:30
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myfundsarelow
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Posted - 02/25/2010 :  00:45:58  Show Profile Send myfundsarelow a Private Message
uthminsta, thanks for your work in posting all these fine bronze coins. a great referance page of all these fine coins will come in handy for future study, thank to all who posted there coins on this page PEACE!!
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uthminsta
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Posted - 03/01/2010 :  17:28:16  Show Profile Send uthminsta a Private Message
Just to let you all know, I have had ZERO "free time" in the last few days. How bout a few of you guys step up and post some of your bronze? Bluegill has been doing a great job! Who else is out there? Hoard, I know you've got some stuff for us to drool over!

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Bluegill
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Posted - 03/01/2010 :  17:38:41  Show Profile Send Bluegill a Private Message
Some Danish Bronze...





6 grams of unknown fineness. Issued from '60 thru '72. In '73 they changed the obverse a bit.

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AGgressive Metal
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Posted - 03/01/2010 :  18:30:06  Show Profile Send AGgressive Metal a Private Message
I think your Ore are primarily zinc. I remember being disappointed when I looked mine up since they seem so coppery.

And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world.
-Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484
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Bluegill
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Posted - 03/01/2010 :  19:06:08  Show Profile Send Bluegill a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by AGgressive Metal

I think your Ore are primarily zinc. I remember being disappointed when I looked mine up since they seem so coppery.


The Krause Catalog lists them as bronze. KM# 848.1 for the '60 thru '71 and KM# 848.2 for the '72.

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AGgressive Metal
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Posted - 03/01/2010 :  19:11:37  Show Profile Send AGgressive Metal a Private Message
Right, but I think they are mostly zinc.

And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world.
-Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484
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Bluegill
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Posted - 03/01/2010 :  19:30:37  Show Profile Send Bluegill a Private Message
You caused me to have to go dig them out out and double check to see what's goin' on.

I did the ring test, they all sounded like Cu. I took a file to the rim of the dinged up '65, it is bronze.

As far as I'm aware, I thought the '56 thru '64 KM# 843.2 are Zn. Those didn't have the barley stalks.



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AGgressive Metal
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Posted - 03/01/2010 :  19:32:37  Show Profile Send AGgressive Metal a Private Message
Maybe that is what I'm thinking of. Yay, I can hoard them after all ;)

And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world.
-Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484
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