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Gr33nday43
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Uzbekistan
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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  22:14:42  Show Profile  Send Gr33nday43 a Yahoo! Message Send Gr33nday43 a Private Message
Well, I figured that it would pass the house. However, I didn't think it would be by a mere 5 votes. I think that the Senate is going to have more difficulty passing this POS since the margin was so slim. We will see...

Nickelless
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USA
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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  22:23:29  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
But did a majority of state delegations vote for it? If not, that could be our hope in the Senate if they follow the House on a state-by-state basis.


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aloneibreak
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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  22:38:53  Show Profile Send aloneibreak a Private Message
it'll never pass the senate. way too close in the house.


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im sorry. ive placed no trust in you whatsoever. you seem determined to ruin whats left of this country.


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Mcprice302
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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  23:08:51  Show Profile Send Mcprice302 a Private Message
After months of struggle capped by a final wrenching compromise over not for discussion, Speaker Nancy Pelosi predicted, "we will pass health care reform," and likened the events to the creation of Social Security in 1935 and Medicare 30 years later.

So, is she saying this crap will be a failure as well?
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Nickelless
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USA
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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  23:19:17  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Mcprice302

After months of struggle capped by a final wrenching compromise over not for discussion, Speaker Nancy Pelosi predicted, "we will pass health care reform," and likened the events to the creation of Social Security in 1935 and Medicare 30 years later.

So, is she saying this crap will be a failure as well?


It won't be a failure. It will bankrupt the country exactly as planned, just like the other two programs.

This kind of reminds me of early in Clinton's first term when Democrats used the phrase "stand and deliver" to tell Americans, especially rich ones, to pay their "fair share" of taxes. Then it was brought up that the phrase "stand and deliver" was used by bank robbers before "stick 'em up" became their catchphrase.


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Nickelless
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Posted - 11/08/2009 :  12:58:33  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless

But did a majority of state delegations vote for it? If not, that could be our hope in the Senate if they follow the House on a state-by-state basis.

Here's a link with a state-by-state roundup. I haven't had time to see if a majority of state delegations approved this--although I'm guessing they didn't. I won't have time to do this before work, so if anyone wants to count the yeas and nays per state and post it here, pardon my French, bon appetit!

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Country
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Posted - 11/08/2009 :  14:37:47  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message
Looking at the data in the Washington Post (link that Nickelless provided), there were only two Congressmen that did not receive campaign contributions from the health industry. Is it any wonder that these people do not represent their citizens?

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Delawhere Jack
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Posted - 11/08/2009 :  21:20:04  Show Profile Send Delawhere Jack a Private Message
Some group in California is looking at bringing suit against the Gov. if this POS passes on the grounds that there is no Constitutional grounds for the Gubbernment to compel citizens to "buy" anything. Be that health insurance or whatever.

What do each of these characters have in common?

Stalin
Hitler
Mao
Castro

They each led government takeovers of the medical establishment very shortly after taking power.


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Gr33nday43
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Uzbekistan
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Posted - 11/08/2009 :  21:44:34  Show Profile  Send Gr33nday43 a Yahoo! Message Send Gr33nday43 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Mcprice302

After months of struggle capped by a final wrenching compromise over not for discussion, Speaker Nancy Pelosi predicted, "we will pass health care reform," and likened the events to the creation of Social Security in 1935 and Medicare 30 years later.

So, is she saying this crap will be a failure as well?



I love when the dems are always throwing around this point. I watched CSPAN for a great portion of the day and there were at least 20 instances when they compared the passage of this POS to medicare and medicaid and social security. It is funny how often democrats contradict themselves on economic issues.
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Gr33nday43
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Uzbekistan
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Posted - 11/08/2009 :  21:49:20  Show Profile  Send Gr33nday43 a Yahoo! Message Send Gr33nday43 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Country

Looking at the data in the Washington Post (link that Nickelless provided), there were only two Congressmen that did not receive campaign contributions from the health industry. Is it any wonder that these people do not represent their citizens?


Another important point to bring up is that those who received a significant portion contributions voted no for the plan, however there were members who voted for the POS who received large sums of money from the health industry. It makes one wonder...
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Gr33nday43
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Uzbekistan
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Posted - 11/08/2009 :  21:50:36  Show Profile  Send Gr33nday43 a Yahoo! Message Send Gr33nday43 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Delawhere Jack

Some group in California is looking at bringing suit against the Gov. if this POS passes on the grounds that there is no Constitutional grounds for the Gubbernment to compel citizens to "buy" anything. Be that health insurance or whatever.

What do each of these characters have in common?

Stalin
Hitler
Mao
Castro

They each led government takeovers of the medical establishment very shortly after taking power.




I hope that group meets some success. A google search is in order...
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