| Author |
 Topic  |
|
|
n/a
deleted
33 Posts |
 Posted - 10/28/2009 : 13:12:00
|
|
All evidence points to the government pushing us towards a cashless society. How would silver work in a cashless society?
|
|
|
Neckro
1000+ Penny Miser Member
Saudi Arabia
2080 Posts |
Posted - 10/28/2009 : 13:24:08
|
| Silver is used in industrial uses and medical. So there will always be a demand for it. And a form of cash will always be used. It'll take a long long time until a complete cashless society will be in effect. |
Trolling is an art. |
 |
|
|
beauanderos
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
2408 Posts |
Posted - 10/28/2009 : 14:23:53
|
| After they wave the wand over the embedded chip in your wrist and it sets off an alarm signalling you are broke, you smile at the teller, whisper "but I've got REAL money" and flash him a glimpse of your palmful of silver dimes and copper pennies and then buy whatever you want. |
Hoard now and hold on!
http://coppermillions.blogspot.com/
http://wherewillyoubein2012.blogspot.com/ |
|
|
|
Mikep2020
Penny Collector Member
USA
402 Posts |
Posted - 10/28/2009 : 14:29:36
|
| In a cashless society, PM's will move into the underground world for transactions. I suspect PM's will be used for bartering or trade with other people, not for buying goods at box stores or from large companies. |
|
|
|
n/a
deleted
33 Posts |
Posted - 10/28/2009 : 16:32:29
|
I'm a Bible believing Christian and anti-Big Government (control).
Revelation 13:16-17 says 16 "... Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark,...".
First let me say this, the scene depicted in the Bible (in Revelation 13:16-17) will most likely be accepted as a normal (and required) way to exist in the world by the majority population. And those of use that will refer to the Bible text in Revelation 13:16-17 as prophesy being fulfilled in the now, will most likely be treated no different than we are currently, which is persecuted by the majority population. I don't know when this will happen and what exactly the mark will be, but let's just say the mark is a "government chip" and the time is "2 years from now". Now, because some won't take the chip, they will not be able to earn (whatever the chip tallies; presumably monetary units) and they will not be able to buy and sell necessary items (i.e. food, etc) from/to "accepted" merchants (or people who live by the chip).
So, in a scenario like this, how is someone supposed to survive (i.e. buy food, pay bills, etc) with only precious metals? And how could someone use silver to their benefit in a scenario like this without having to go "underground"?
|
Edited by - n/a on 10/28/2009 16:51:40 |
|
|
|
billo
Penny Collector Member
293 Posts |
Posted - 10/28/2009 : 20:11:50
|
| Impossible to say what is coming. PM is good for many scenarios. Silver should be very useful--gold is too valuable for many transactions. |
That's not a dollar, mate...THIS is a dollar.
http://www.sendcongressapinkslip.com/ |
|
|
|
vrbsroma
Penny Collector Member
394 Posts |
Posted - 10/29/2009 : 12:14:15
|
| We're already living in a cashless society. What do you NEED cash for nowadays? I can buy a pack of gum with my credit card. Who needs cash? |
As far as I know, it is stated "In God We Trust" on the US dollar. How can I trust this currency if I do not believe in God?
Possession is nine-tenths of the law.
When I give my two cents, they're always copper! |
|
|
|
Country
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
3121 Posts |
Posted - 10/29/2009 : 12:38:27
|
quote:
Originally posted by ZippyGaloo
I'm a Bible believing Christian and anti-Big Government (control).
Revelation 13:16-17 says 16 "... Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark,...".
First let me say this, the scene depicted in the Bible (in Revelation 13:16-17) will most likely be accepted as a normal (and required) way to exist in the world by the majority population. And those of use that will refer to the Bible text in Revelation 13:16-17 as prophesy being fulfilled in the now, will most likely be treated no different than we are currently, which is persecuted by the majority population. I don't know when this will happen and what exactly the mark will be, but let's just say the mark is a "government chip" and the time is "2 years from now". Now, because some won't take the chip, they will not be able to earn (whatever the chip tallies; presumably monetary units) and they will not be able to buy and sell necessary items (i.e. food, etc) from/to "accepted" merchants (or people who live by the chip).
So, in a scenario like this, how is someone supposed to survive (i.e. buy food, pay bills, etc) with only precious metals? And how could someone use silver to their benefit in a scenario like this without having to go "underground"?
This is the mark of the beast! |
---> Come to the new and improved realcent: http://realcent.org
The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.
Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
|
Nickelless
Administrator
USA
5580 Posts |
Posted - 10/29/2009 : 12:39:45
|
quote:
Originally posted by ZippyGaloo
I'm a Bible believing Christian and anti-Big Government (control).
Revelation 13:16-17 says 16 "... Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark,...".
First let me say this, the scene depicted in the Bible (in Revelation 13:16-17) will most likely be accepted as a normal (and required) way to exist in the world by the majority population. And those of use that will refer to the Bible text in Revelation 13:16-17 as prophesy being fulfilled in the now, will most likely be treated no different than we are currently, which is persecuted by the majority population. I don't know when this will happen and what exactly the mark will be, but let's just say the mark is a "government chip" and the time is "2 years from now". Now, because some won't take the chip, they will not be able to earn (whatever the chip tallies; presumably monetary units) and they will not be able to buy and sell necessary items (i.e. food, etc) from/to "accepted" merchants (or people who live by the chip).
So, in a scenario like this, how is someone supposed to survive (i.e. buy food, pay bills, etc) with only precious metals? And how could someone use silver to their benefit in a scenario like this without having to go "underground"?
I don't want to sound too preachy to the rest of the board, but ZippyGaloo, check out Revelation 16--God will fight on behalf of His saints in the midst of their suffering. Silver and gold are just tools for us to use now and eventually won't matter in this world. |
Visit my new preparedness site: Preparedness.cc/SurvivalPrep.net
--Latest article: Stocking up on spices to keep food preps lively
---------------
Be prepared...and prepared to help: http://www.survivalblog.com/charity.html
Are you ready spiritually for hard times? http://www.jesusfreak.com/rapture.asp |
|
|
|
Neckro
1000+ Penny Miser Member
Saudi Arabia
2080 Posts |
Posted - 10/29/2009 : 12:56:37
|
| ... So now it's gone to this. |
Trolling is an art. |
|
|
|
n/a
deleted
33 Posts |
Posted - 10/30/2009 : 01:14:52
|
quote:
Originally posted by Neckro
... So now it's gone to this.
Gone to what? |
|
|
|
HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 10/30/2009 : 01:18:35
|
I'm religously putting away copper and silver.  |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
Now selling Copper pennies. 1.6x plus shipping. Limited amounts available. |
|
|
|
jadedragon
Administrator
Canada
3788 Posts |
Posted - 10/30/2009 : 02:01:39
|
I believe the Mark of the Beast is coming someday near the end of time. Had we lived 100 years ago it would be hard to imagine a system where the government or anyone else controlled your ability to buy and sell. How could the government control what you did in private in the cabin a long ways from anywhere?
Today, with the move to electronic everything, it would be pretty easy to control commerce. Just use id cards, or control the banking system.
We are rapidly moving into a situation where nearly everything we do is traceable by computer. I notice that personal checks are becoming less and less common (can't use checks to buy groceries now around here). Stock certificates are vanishing rapidly. Bearer bonds were eliminated in 1982 and are now pretty much extinct. People don't use cash at Starbucks, they pull out a preloaded card. We buy gas by waving a fob at the pump. And on and on.
We can't stop the progression toward the cashless society, but we can prepare for a breakdown in society as we know it. The breakdown may be widespread or it could hit us personally for our beliefs/nationality/other factors.
If things go really sideways, barter will take on increased importance. There will always be people willing to sell or barter necessities for gold/silver/copper on the black or unofficial market. That is how we will survive if we are outside the system or the system is gone. In wartime and whenever a group is seriously discriminated against, that is always how they survive.
Prime example is the Jews were prohibited from buying and selling by the Nazis but many used barter and precious metals to survive and sometimes get across borders to safe countries. Same concept wherever refugees are found even today.
But forget the religious angle, there is a practical angle too. If you hold portable, untraceable, easily concealed wealth, you have options even in the worst case scenario. There will always be a low paid guard or solder or paper pusher who can get you out of a jam for a little inducement. There are always people who will take great risks for you for some hard assets. You can hire guides to get over a border, bribe your way out of jail, pay off someone, hire transportation, or many other things if you hold portable, untraceable, easily concealed wealth.
The world is a dangerous place. When I travel I always have some US$ (though I think I'll go to Euros soon) stashed away as emergency cash. I've heard of people carrying fractional gold coins as well, especially into conflict zones, as an insurance policy. Don't bank only on your ATM and Mastercard to get you out of a jam at home or abroad. Be ready at all times with something tangible. It could save your life. |
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. George Bernard Shaw.
Why Copper Bullion ~~~ Interview with Silver Bullion Producer Market Harmony
Passive Income blog |
|
|
| |
Topic |
|
|
|
How would silver work in a cashless society?
Forum Locked
