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NiBullionCu
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Posted - 04/23/2007 : 13:48:56
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Long time lurker, first time poster.
A little info for the board. A list of countries besides Canada that have struck coins in Nickel:
France, ½ France, 1 Franc, 2 Franc, 1960 - 2001 Netherlands, 10¢ thru 2½ Gulden, pre-euro. South Africa, 5¢ thru Rand, (need to look these up again)
Have not determined purity of said strikings. Krause lists them as struck in Nickel.
Switzerland struck some nickel in the 20's as well as French polynesia (current issue), but those will not be common to find.
Greetings to the board!
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Posted - 04/23/2007 : 16:26:04
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Thanks for your input NiBullionCu!
I have a few Netherlands coins and yes they are magnetic.
When the price of silver went up and the US Mint stopped creating siver coins, it wasn't long before the appearance of "Silver Rounds" Can "Nickel Rounds" of one troy ounce be far behind?
I hope they go to gram increments. I would rather see Nickel cast into 10, 20, 50, 100, 500, and 1000 gram pieces.
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" Here comes the helicopter -- second time today Everybody scatters and hopes it goes away How many kids they've murdered only God can say If I had a rocket launcher...I'd make somebody pay I don't believe in guarded borders and I don't believe in hate I don't believe in generals or their stinking torture states And when I talk with the survivors of things too sickening to relate If I had a rocket launcher...I would retaliate On the Rio Lacantun, one hundred thousand wait To fall down from starvation -- or some less humane fate Cry for guatemala, with a corpse in every gate If I had a rocket launcher...I would not hesitate I want to raise every voice -- at least I've got to try Every time I think about it water rises to my eyes. Situation desperate, echoes of the victims cry If I had a rocket launcher...Some son of a bitch would die "
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Disclaimer: Rock Launchers are NOT protected by the Second Amendment. Do NOT try this at home. |
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aloneibreak
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NiBullionCu
Penny Pincher Member
 

USA
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Posted - 04/24/2007 : 09:27:52
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Thank you aloneibreak for the links.
I see most sources just list composition as "nickel", but never give a fineness. I'm sure that is because you don't typically give a "fineness" for base metals. But yet, for alloys the mix percentage is typically noted. Example, USA nickels are 75% cu and 25% Ni Can we "assume" that if the composition is given as "nickel" that it is pure nickel? Then that begs the purity question, .9Ni, .99Ni, .999Ni, ??? We typically refer to USA circulation issue gold coins as "gold", but they are only .9Au (and 10% Cu), wherein the Eagles are .999Au
I remember reading some posts hereabouts that called into question the claim by the Canadian mint that the nickels were .999 Ni
Anyone know the typical fineness tolerance for industrial "pure nickel"?
And has it been consistent over time?
Is the refining process the same now as it was in the 1920's and 1930's???
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NiBullionCu
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Posted - 04/25/2007 : 12:39:57
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Since it can be difficult to nail down specifications of Non-USA/Non-Canada coins, I will try to update this thread with Foreign coin specifications and links/citations when possible.
First up France
Denom Diam(mm) gram wt #/Lb
½ Franc 19.5 4.5 101
1 Franc 24 6.0 76
2 Franc 26.5 7.5 60.5
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  . . These come from the French Mint website: You must be logged in to see this link. . On That web page click the coin images to get the specifications. The French mint web page linked to above lists the composition as nickel.
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psi
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Posted - 04/26/2007 : 00:42:36
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The french francs turn up on ebay a bunch as nickel bullion. They are often advertised as .999 but I haven't seen confirmation of this. |
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NiBullionCu
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Posted - 05/04/2007 : 14:48:39
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I have received a reply from the French mint.
The nickel coins are indeed .999 pure nickel.
Here is the email request and reply:
To: <musee@monnaiedeparis.fr> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 9:54 PM Subject: Franc Français 1960 - 2001
Salutations, J'essaye de trouver la pureté du nickel employée pour frapper le franc français de 1960 jusqu'en 2001.
Était-ce nickel fin de 999? Ou une autre pureté ? Merci à l'avance de votre temps (et de mon mauvais Français).
Greetings, I am trying to find the purity of nickel used to strike the French Franc from 1960 until 2001. Was it .999 fine nickel? Or some other purity?
Thanks in advance for your time (and my bad French).
Sent : Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:46 AM To : <NiBullionCu> Subject : Re: Franc Français 1960 - 2001 Bonjour, Les pièces de un franc (1 nouveau franc) sont bien en nickel pur, effectivement à un titre proche de 999/1000èmes pour un poids légal de 6 grammes et un diamètre (module) de 24 mm. Cordialement, J. INDRIGO
babelfish translation of answer:
Hello, The parts of a frank (1 new frank) are well out of pure nickel, indeed with a title close to 999/1000èmes for a legal weight of 6 grams and a diameter (module) of 24 MM Cordialement, J INDRIGO
So I believe we now have confimation on the purity of the french nickel coins.  |
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NiBullionCu
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Posted - 05/18/2007 : 12:30:12
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Netherlands nickel coins
Denom Years weight/gms #/Lb
10¢ 1948 - 2001 1.5 302.6
25¢ 1948 - 2001 3.0 151.3
1 Gulden 1967 - 2001 6.0 75.7
2½ Gulden 1969 - 2001 10.0 45.4
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NiBullionCu
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Posted - 07/05/2007 : 15:20:50
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South Africa nickel coins
Years issued: 1965 - 1989
Denom diam. mm. gm wgt # in Pound
5 Cent 17.35 2.5 181.5
10 Cent 20.7 4.0 113.5
Years issued: 1965 - 1990
20 Cent 24.2 6.0 76.0
50 Cent 27.8 9.5 48.0
1 Rand 31.0 12.0 38.0
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