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kavajava
Penny Collector Member
USA
347 Posts |
 Posted - 06/23/2008 : 23:53:07
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What are your thoughts about going around the neighborhood the night before trash day and pulling the aluminum cans out of the recycle bins?
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No82s
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USA
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Posted - 06/24/2008 : 08:59:15
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| In some communities there are laws against thst. Be sure to check. |
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Kurr
Penny Collector Member
306 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2008 : 09:48:48
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In my local if its put out by the road, it's fair game. I would say if they have a "recyling program" then they have a law to protect their (the city's) property. However alot of scrapyards buy the things peole throw out. I always cut the cords off appliances if nothing else. $1.00+ a lb.
The recycle bins are someone else's private property (the recycle company, state, or local government), and I am assuming the law would see it as the items in said storage container as well. |
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tyoon21
Member
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Posted - 06/24/2008 : 10:01:24
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Originally posted by Kurr
In my local if its put out by the road, it's fair game. I would say if they have a "recyling program" then they have a law to protect their (the city's) property. However alot of scrapyards buy the things peole throw out. I always cut the cords off appliances if nothing else. $1.00+ a lb.
The recycle bins are someone else's private property (the recycle company, state, or local government), and I am assuming the law would see it as the items in said storage container as well.
When you cut the cords do you cut the plugs off as well? I have a ton of 9V power cords for computer equipment and I don't know whether to scrap as is or cut the ends off.
Cheers!
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fasTTcar
Member
Canada
65 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2008 : 10:16:05
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Personally, I consider it theft.
The profit gained my municipality for anything that I put into the blue box goes towards my community budget and, in the large view, offsets my taxes.
If I put it on the side of the road, not in a blue box, for general garbage, it is considered fair game IMHO. |
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Flbandit
Penny Collector Member
USA
367 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2008 : 19:06:39
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| I've wondered about it before, but when it comes to picking up scrap, if I even wonder about it I leave it alone. |
Are you throwing that out? |
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Bluegill
Penny Collector Member
USA
255 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2008 : 19:33:04
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Definitely check with your municipality. I have a feeling it is not OK to take from the recycling bins. I too have wondered about this.
Michigan has a 10 cent deposit on all our cans so the only metals that end up in our bins is steel.
However, somebody once was throwing out a complete set of aluminum cookware and put it in their recycling bin. I couldn't resist. Needless to say the cookware found it's way into the back of my truck. 
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Kurr
Penny Collector Member
306 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2008 : 20:13:17
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yes you have to cut the plugs off, but if they have they big voltage regulator or whatever box in the cord, its like a transformer, bust it open for the copper.
If its bigger sized it usually has more in it so i take it, but like toasters or small electronics I know contain no PMs then I snip the cord and leave it.
Check your electronic plugs before you pitch em, alot of male and female electronic ends are gold or gold plated. |
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Democracy is three wolves and two sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Freedom is armed sheep contesting the vote. |
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tyoon21
Member
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Posted - 06/25/2008 : 06:26:50
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Originally posted by Kurr
yes you have to cut the plugs off, but if they have they big voltage regulator or whatever box in the cord, its like a transformer, bust it open for the copper.
If its bigger sized it usually has more in it so i take it, but like toasters or small electronics I know contain no PMs then I snip the cord and leave it.
Check your electronic plugs before you pitch em, alot of male and female electronic ends are gold or gold plated.
Thanks Kurr. Good stuff!
I have been saving the connectors from computer wires, heard they are gold plated as well. Hopefully after I get a bunch of them I'll learn how to scrap for gold.
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kavajava
Penny Collector Member
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2008 : 13:13:32
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| OK--thanks for all the input--sounds like it is best to leave the bins alone--maybe a bit overzealous for a newbie... |
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USNavySubSailor
Penny Pincher Member
USA
108 Posts |
Posted - 06/27/2008 : 15:13:43
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Originally posted by fasTTcar
Personally, I consider it theft.
The profit gained my municipality for anything that I put into the blue box goes towards my community budget and, in the large view, offsets my taxes.
If I put it on the side of the road, not in a blue box, for general garbage, it is considered fair game IMHO.
I think you're dreaming if you really think curbside recycling programs make money. Just do a google search on the subject and you'll see what I mean. Kava would actually be doing your community a favor by taking all the stuff himself.
What I would consider "theft" is the government making it mandatory and charging me for it at the same time. They want me to give them valuable items and pay them while I'm doing it.
I'm pretty sure, if it's put out for pickup, then it's free game. At least that's what the crime shows on TRU TV always say.
Kava, what I would do if it were me, I would go around and ask these people for their stuff. I'm betting 99% of the people you ask would have no problem letting you take their recyclables. |
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kavajava
Penny Collector Member
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2008 : 13:00:25
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Hey subsailor--thanks for the comments--we actually pay a bit over $5 every two months for a recycling fee.
Maybe I'll just ask my nearest neighbors and leave it at that for now. |
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Hirbonzig
Penny Pincher Member
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2008 : 07:07:09
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| Can't take the good stuff from the recycling bins in my town. The recycling company has been loosing money because everyone is keeping all the good stuff and going to the scrap yard themselves. A law was originally written that it would be illegal for the homeowner to put his OWN garbage out on the curb and then change his OWN mind and weed-out any copper,alum. etc... The law was since changed co you can now go thru your own trash for recycling, but you cant check your neighbors for metal. Even if you ask the homeowner if it's ok to take from the curb and he says ok, hope a nosey neighbor dos'nt report you to the recycling police. |
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kavajava
Penny Collector Member
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2008 : 08:57:34
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Originally posted by Hirbonzig
A law was originally written that it would be illegal for the homeowner to put his OWN garbage out on the curb and then change his OWN mind and weed-out any copper,alum. etc... The law was since changed co you can now go thru your own trash for recycling,
We really don't have too many elected officials looking out for us do we?
We actually had a law passed here that prohibited the installation of garbage disposals--public uproar, then it was repealed. These people are out of touch. |
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Kurr
Penny Collector Member
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Posted - 06/30/2008 : 09:32:16
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They just pander to the "feel good" "knee-jerk" reactions of the public. No respect for the law of unintended consequences. I believe that the modern politicians are operating under what the ancient Greeks would have called "hubris". Unfortunately this seemed to be a reoccurring theme in tragedies.
I too have seen the recycling horrors such as the camera crew following the recycle truck to see them get back to base, and TRASH the recycle pick-ups. They're not interested in the recycle work, they're interested in the fee's and fines, thats all gubbmint men knows! |
A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears
Democracy is three wolves and two sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Freedom is armed sheep contesting the vote. |
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kavajava
Penny Collector Member
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2008 : 10:24:02
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Kurr--good points.
I also vaguely remember hearing about some communities throwing out the recycle after picking it up.
I have also heard, but have not really checked into it, that some things actually cost more to recycle than they save, or use more energy, etc. |
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Kurr
Penny Collector Member
306 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2008 : 10:50:03
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I do not feel too bad about the cost ratios right now because though it it done at a loss, it allows for new technology to be brought about. "we are not making enough on this lets re examine how we are doing it."
Also new processes are being discovered all the time. |
A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears
Democracy is three wolves and two sheep voting on whats for dinner.
Freedom is armed sheep contesting the vote. |
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fasTTcar
Member
Canada
65 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2008 : 13:52:36
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To me, the best system exists in a few Florida jurisdictions.
One stream of garbage, all of it.
It is shipped to the prisons and sorted by hand. |
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USNavySubSailor
Penny Pincher Member
USA
108 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2008 : 07:27:17
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Fast, that's the kind of program I can get behind.
Right before I went to my first submarine, I had a kidney stone. Since we don't have doctors on board, I had to get a waiver to go to sea. While I was waiting for the medical waiver I worked at the base recycling center. We had to pick through the garbage, break down cardboard, we worked at the dropoff site, etc. It wasn't a bad job, I actually enjoyed it, got to wear civilian clothes, had good hours, etc. I was the only guy though, at least the temporary guys, that wasn't from either the brig, or guys on restriction. They were being punished, while I was getting a good deal.
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Nickelless
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
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Posted - 07/02/2008 : 07:43:43
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Originally posted by USNavySubSailor
Fast, that's the kind of program I can get behind.
Right before I went to my first submarine, I had a kidney stone. Since we don't have doctors on board, I had to get a waiver to go to sea. While I was waiting for the medical waiver I worked at the base recycling center. We had to pick through the garbage, break down cardboard, we worked at the dropoff site, etc. It wasn't a bad job, I actually enjoyed it, got to wear civilian clothes, had good hours, etc. I was the only guy though, at least the temporary guys, that wasn't from either the brig, or guys on restriction. They were being punished, while I was getting a good deal.
No doctors on board while subs are out at sea for months? Wow, that's hard to believe. What happens if anyone gets sick while the sub is out at sea? |
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 07/02/2008 : 17:12:48
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Submariners do not get sick, they are too tough....
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I'm so sick over pennies....I frequently trade a dime or two for the whole "take-a-penny" container if sufficient coppers exist. That will get you some odd looks.
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kavajava
Penny Collector Member
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2008 : 23:58:24
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yeah--I remember hearing stories about how they would remove your appendix if necessary--set up an operating table in the wardroom and have someone read the procedure out of a book and do the cuttin'. Makes you not want to get sick. We also carried morphine etc. on board...I was the one on my boat who had to sign for it and kept it locked in a special safe--if any of it ever turned up missing, hi ho, hi ho, it's off to jail you go...
seriously though...Deal is right--submariners are so tough, they don't get sick. |
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Trash picking from recycle bins?
